To all you rap haters

[escobert]

Wiggers do suck. I wear timberland boots and such and I like rap but, I know I'm white

[Kathryn]

SNOOP DOG ROX!!!!!

[Hiroshino]

i just think that people who hate rap and think that its just guys talking about killing ppl, doing drugs, and getting laid are just stupid. even in the case of VIOLENT songs, it wasn't unwarranted. in most cases, rap artists are just trying to get revenge for something that was said about them by another rapper. unfortunately, this leads to a never ending spiral (weirdest deja vu of auron's speach in ffx, lol). i mean, take a REAL artist, biggie, 2pac, etc. they talked about that, but also more important things, like LIFE. like feeding ur children. like giving props to your mom for what she went through,like mourning the deaths of ur closest friends etc, etc. rock does none of that.

in my eyes, i stopped listening to rock a couple years ago cuz most bands that were up and coming were repetitive, and everythign was so monotonous. i mean, how many interesting things can u do with 3, maybe 4 instruments?it got old to me after ahilwe. plus, everyone into rock at that time felt like they had problems and wanted to commit suicide.boring....

at least in rap they talk about specific problems, specific solutions, whlie making you want to get up and do something about urs. a majority of rock, on the other hand, are just vague and ambiguous sentences strung together about a tired subject to a couple of instruments.

I'm sorry but you are sadly mistaken man. While you are right about the part where some rap has meaning behind it, and I won't deny this, and how you are right about current rock which is monotonous and repetitive and boring, the rest is wrong. Rock, just like any other genre, has meaning behind it. Listen to some older Rock if the new stuff doesn't appeal to you. Apparently you are judging all of Rock when describing this new shit. Why don't you listen to Black Sabbath, Nirvana, Alice In Chains, Metallica, etc. You want to know what you can do with three or four instruments? Magic, that's what. And maybe the people into Rock do have problems and suicidal problems, you don't know that. How can you say what they felt? Maybe there are people who act like depressing suicidal human beings who need to get over themselves, but to me it sounds like you are judging a majority of people, and some, could have been going through some kind of trouble that would drive them to suicidal thoughts. You don't know that. And don't even tell me that they told you that they weren't or something like that; somebody can tell you one thing, and do another. Did you question every single person?

You can do a lot of things with three to four instruments. I gave a list of bands that prove this, many more are out there. End of story.

[UltimaLimit]

I am a rocker. I prefer bands like Korn, Disturbed, Metallica, Static-X, to name a few. However, I do listen to (and sometimes like) other types of music.

I like rap. I really do. I just wish that some rappers (yeah you Snoop Dogg) (and you 50 Cent) would get it through their heads that you need diversity of topics as well as beats. I've no objection to songs about sex, prostitution, and drugs, but those songs keep on playing every single year. They have different names, beats, and lyrics, but it's basically the same repetitive crap in a different package. And yet every single year they become hits. Honestly, sometimes I wonder if this is the best rap can offer.

Another thing I object to is the language. Rockers often have filthy mouths, and I don't object to the F-word and stuff as long as it doesn't get too rediculous. But Snoop, there's only so many things you can rhyme with "n***a". I don't particularly approve of the way women are treated, either--many popular rap music videos are more or less soft porn with background music--but what really pisses me off is the N-bomb and the repetitive topics in general. I mean, come on--you say you came from the "hood" and you're a "gangsta" or "thug" so you should automatically be respected? Guess what, I lived in a tough neighborhood for a while, too. (Somebody brought a gun to school when I was in kidnergarten for Christ's sake.) I don't walk around flashing gang signs and telling everybody "<img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif> off, n***a, I'm from da hood!" If someone asks, I tell them; if not, I keep my mouth shut. Actions speak louder than words.

While most rap is probably about drugs, sex, and violence...what about rock music? It's mostly about how life sucks and suicide. Please. If you're going to bang on rap like that, you might as well rip other genres that you listen to.

You're generalizing quite a bit yourself. Rock does talk about that a bit more than I like, but there are plenty of songs out there that talk about many other things. Especially when you throw in "sub-genres" like punk, grunge, lighter rock, alternative...

I'm not saying that my complaints above hold true to all rap songs, either. I like I.C.P. (though I don't agree with everything they say), and I used to like Eminem until around the time "My Band" came out. (IMO, he's sold out and become the same old crap in white skin. As one magazine put it, "rebels don't have clothing lines".) Anyway, I didn't like them because they were good rappers (though they are), or for their good music (I.C.P., Eminem's beats are nothing special except for Lose Yourself). I liked them because A) they were different from the rest and B) I've yet to hear them say "n***a".

In short? I don't like rap because a lot of them don't have anything to say. Many rappers have talent, but they're wasting it. It's like Picasso becoming a pornographer or something. It's like someone else said, I could search for and find the good rap, but it's too much effort in today's flood of crap.

EDIT: BTW, Li'l Jon actually has said some smart things. "Don't start no <img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif>, it won't be no <img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif><img src=http://forums.eyesonff.com/images/smilies/rpg_009.gif>" is how I try to live my life, and Wat U Gon Do brought up some good points as well (though I prefer it censored, because of the racial slur.) If Li'l Jon focuses less on partying and saying n***a and focuses more on doing something different, I'll actually buy his CD.

[Montoya]

I don't necessarily like rap, it get's very annoying to me. Just because it might not suck, does not mean I have to like it more. It doesn't appeal to me. End.

[Copycat]

I don't like rap at all. Its often played loudly and hurts my ears like hell. Whenever I say, "Hey, could you turn it down?" My classmates always hush me. Thats because the only time I hear rap is on field trips while riding in a parent's car, or even sometimes at school. I'm not exactly to fond of the lyrics either.

That's just my oppinion though. I don't care who likes it, as long as my ears don't get blasted so much that I go deaf or anything.

SNOOP DOG ROX!!!!!

Was there any real point in posting this?

[Fuzakeru]

While most rap is probably about drugs, sex, and violence...what about rock music? It's mostly about how life sucks and suicide. Please. If you're going to bang on rap like that, you might as well rip other genres that you listen to.

Actually, I'm a huge rock fan ( modern, alternative, metal, punk, stuff from the 80s and even 70s ) and I'd have to say that most rock songs I've heard ( especially from the 70s/80s era is about violence, drugs, and sex. ^_^; Even bands today sing a lot about violence, drugs, and sex. I'll admit they usually aren't as blunt as a lot of rappers are about it but the same principle still lies.

I understand how it upsets you that people bash on rap without, in most cases, backing up their reasons because I'm a huge Country Music fan and I deal with it all the time. "My wife left me and I lost my trailer so I'm gonna cry and drink a beer," is something I hear quite often and it pisses me off. So if anything, I can understand you. ^_^;

There are a few songs I can get in to but I think it's more for the sound than the actual lyrics, although I'll admit, when I can throw down some rhymes I feel pretty damn proud. xD!
I dislike the rap music that holds no real meaning behind the song other than to inform everyone about how 'ballin' they really are. That's what I hear a lot of lately. "I have ice, whores, and nice cars so don't mess with me or I'll beat you up. ( I don't speak the lingo very well. xD! )" That I don't really care for but there are, like in ever genre, the people who will mess it up for you. There are some country singers I listen to who make me shake my head and go, "And I wonder why people hate country."

[Lionx]

I like soft asian music or video game remixes and stuff like that. Electronica and dance is good sometimes depending on the mood....i pretty much like everything to a certain degree. But everyone has their right to like what they like, and that $#@% you comment wasnt that nice either. It just wasnt necessary, this is one of the few boards where people talk civilly and my IQ doesnt have to drop a few points -_- Cept with Kishi and Bleys posts, but they still rock

You like rap, someone else doesnt and you dont like anime and i do...whats the point? Theres no need to bash some people for not liking the same thing as you, if you do hate them so much then you hated like...how many people in this world? :x As much as i like your walkthroughs...i lost a bit of respect cuz you said it in such way >< Peace man, its the only way we can get high. :upsidedow