The Beginning

[seiyuimore]

Or may be Squall passed out because of the scar injury and fire attack.

Seifer already left the infirmary with his 2 goons earlier. . . Because in class, Squall still have his bandage while Seifer is not bandaged at all. Means there is a lenght of time or Fuujin just cast cure to him to expedite the healing.

This also rise a curiousity. . .
In Dollet exam, Xu said to Seifer: "How many times now?"
Seifer replied: "Oh I just love these exams." (Mark: These exams)

What Seifer meant by this? Is it meant that he joined field exams more than once?

[Kamrusepas]

I think it's mentioned it's his second time, but I'm not sure.
Maybe it's because he's the captain on this exam, and maybe he was just a cadet on the first time?

[ShivaBlizzard8]

I believe the joke here is that Seifer has taken the SeeD exam a number of times now, and he keeps failing it - like he ultimately fails the Dollet one as well.

[blue_midget192]

This also rise a curiousity. . .
In Dollet exam, Xu said to Seifer: "How many times now?"
Seifer replied: "Oh I just love these exams." (Mark: These exams)

What Seifer meant by this? Is it meant that he joined field exams more than once?

yes, is far as i knew (from the game, the booklet, and his charecter in general) he keeps failing the SeeD exams, becuse he cann't follow orders etc. And he has taken the exams several times

[seiyuimore]

I believe the joke here is that Seifer has taken the SeeD exam a number of times now, and he keeps failing it - like he ultimately fails the Dollet one as well.

Then, in that case he has visited and finished Fire cavern much much earlier than Squall?

[ShivaBlizzard8]

That's a good point - he probably has. But I bet he still hangs around the cavern to mock new SeeD candidates. Just sounds like something he'd do.

[seiyuimore]

That's a good point - he probably has. But I bet he still hangs around the cavern to mock new SeeD candidates. Just sounds like something he'd do.

Sugoi!!

So Seifer outclever Squall while in the garden! Even though they arrived at the garden the same time, Seifer finished everything earlier than squall (Minus become SEED). No wonder he was appointed as the leader of disciplinary commitee.

[Kamrusepas]

Yay, he's so good

[ShivaBlizzard8]

LOL - well, I don't think its all that surprising. Seifer is really good at what he does - he and Squall wouldn't be "rivals" if one of them really sucked. It's like being on a sports team - your rival isn't the team you always win against. It's usually the team that always beats you - and are jerks about it. Therefore, it makes sense that Seifer always beat Squall at everything, and rubbed his face in it (including their little gunblade battle at the begining). Finally, Squall beat Seifer to become a SeeD - something Seifer's bad attitude prevented him from doing.

[udsuna]

One should point out that no one ever established an accurate timeline. For all we know, the battle happened the day before- and Squall was out for the count all night. Kinda like some people with the alcohol. "Well, I was going to go to work this morning, but..." I wouldn't know, I never touch the stuff, but I'd assume that getting a chunk torn out of your face would compare well to a hangover. Heck, it coulda been days (but that's less likely). And it would seem quite Squall-ish to hop on the idea of having a 'warmup' of sorts the day before a big event. As a runner, I prefered to leave the day before open for rest and relaxation, but a lot of my teamates didn't.

[blue_midget192]

One should point out that no one ever established an accurate timeline. For all we know, the battle happened the day before- and Squall was out for the count all night.

Good Point i'd not thought of that. He could have been out all night, because if i remeber rightly when he wakes up its realy bright outside soo, that would suggest either early morning or a meteor shower so either they had the fight last night, or they had the fight at about 4:30 in the morning.

[ShivaBlizzard8]

On the contrary, I think its clear that it happens in one day:

1)The fight during a rainstorm - early morning.
2) Squall wakes up later in the afternoon, storm over, its sunny - afternoon sun in window.
3) Class, Quistis asks Squall why he hasn't been to cavern, he thinks *I was going to go this morning, but then Seifer. . . * They agree to go now.
4) Fire Cavern with Quistis - late afternoon. (It's getting dark when they get back - Quistis tells him to rest before exam)
5)SeeD exam leaving - sunset (its getting dark at Balamb)
6)Travel to Dollet - night. (The Moon is out during the FMV and its dark.)
7)SeeD exam - very early morning - the sun is rising but the moon's stil out.
8)Back to Balamb - looks like midday to me.
9)Graduation Ball - night.

But that's just my theory.

[udsuna]

Yeah, but even with those observations, it's just as easy to say it was yesterday with the battle. Which was to point out that there is NO way to say 'when' the battle occures in relation to the other events other than "Squall wakes up later- and it's a very bright day". Although it WAS stormy- which implies time for the weather to clear up considerably. But considering they're right next to a highly improbable mountain formation... that doesn't say much. But since we can't establish "when", we have no means to establish "where".
And we also have no real idea what Squall was going to think next- all we have is "I was going to go this morning, but Seifer..." for all we know the next line was "went too far last night". Ok, maybe that's not EXACTLY the wording that would be used, but you get the idea. And Squall's the sort that wouldn't consider something like that a good excuse- I actually doubt Quistis would have accepted it, either. And besides, he cut it AWFULLY close to the mission to wait to complete his Fire-Cave training. That's just plain procrastination.

[ShivaBlizzard8]

LOL - I agree on the procrastination thing!

However, I think Squall's internal thought does give us a location - and a precise one at that - he was going to go to the Fire Cavern, and the confrontation prevented him from getting there. That narrows things down signifigantly, because it gives us a context for the fight, and the rest can be reasoned:
- Squall's still a student, he has classes to go to, and since he's not a SeeD yet, no access to cars or a salary (plus Squall really isn't the type to go on vacation anyway), so I think we can assume this conflict happened somewhere between Balamb Garden and the Fire Cavern, which is where Squall was headed.
- The battle takes place outdoors, evidenced by the sky and rain, which rules out internal locations inside Balamb, including the training center.
- The battle takes place in a mountainous area, and the only mountainous area on the island of Balamb is by the Fire Cavern, which is where Squall was headed in the first place.

Pretty clear to me.

[seiyuimore]

Shivablizzard is right.

But things that made me curious is, who is Squall's support that time? Why he or she didn't stop the fight?

I have a funny idea that Seifer is squall's support for that time .. . But since Seifer is not SeeD and still student, he couldn't be the support for Squall right?

And where is Fuujin and Raijin? Aren't they Seifer's sidekick who always follow Seifer all the time? Why in the FMV, they are not seen?