Ah but your thinking iPods which can't do that sort of stuff anyways, mine was about £150 I think and that wasn't the cheapest availible 20 Gig one I'd seen but it was the one I liked the most and wasn't the size of a mobile phone from 1993
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I see the points you bring up in relation with iPods though, they are expensive for what they are but thats what you get for wanting the latest fasion trend and market leader.