Right.The problem with the public school system in America isn't a lack of money.
I wonder how many of those people complaining about this have put aside their shopping trips and fancy electronic equipment and instead given money that could be lavishly spent on such things to needy families or relief funds. Anybody?
Well I think everyone needs to get off their high horses.
Yeah, it's disgusting that rich people do stupid things with money that could go to other places. It's also stupid that people complain about it, when they really have no basis for complaint. And it's stupid that people complain about the people complaining about it.
It's ridiculous that people want to impress one another so much that they spend millions of dollars for some ugly fabric and nasty food, but they aren't taking food out of the mouths of babies.
And the trickle down theory doesn't work.
And hippy liberal is one of the most inane terms I've heard come out of the extreme right, you fascist conservatives. noname, I believe you need to "get over" the fact that this country is built on protest, and people are going to do it whether you agree with it or not.
PS: All of you go plant some corn or something.
EDIT: Also, throwing snowballs was probably meant more symbolically than anything else. *cough Boston Massacre cough*
Signature by rubah. I think.
Question:
Wasn't the the DC area asked to foot the bill?
Take care all.
IT BETTER BE! If it isn't, then there's nobody to blame but ourselves!!!! You be careful or else you'll have a world which understands that consequences exist!!!Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
And what was I going to say? Oh, right. 21 million isn't really all that much money. I mean, if it was in one family, then it'd be a lot. But concerning spillover for campaigning and/or other donations (Keep in mind that the word "donations" is used and not very innacurately. Unless Bush paid out of his pocket, whereas there still wouldn't be a problem), then it isn't really a big deal to splurge it. And anyway, I think that the trickle down theory (If that's what you call it) must work. The rich/poor gap in the US isn't big enough to think that money doesn't go around.
I knew someone was going to take it personally! Haha. Whatever, I know this country was built on protest. And I dont see why you guys are making a big deal about this 21 million when it has been like this for years.And hippy liberal is one of the most inane terms I've heard come out of the extreme right, you fascist conservatives. noname, I believe you need to "get over" the fact that this country is built on protest, and people are going to do it whether you agree with it or not.
What I want to know is why the hell noname thinks that the terms
"hippie" and "liberal" are insults.
I don't associate myself with any political group because they're essentially
all the same. The matter isn't really about who you support. Many people
seem to make cases against Clinton whenever Bush does something wrong,
how is this logic even remotely acceptable? When will people realize that
it's not about liberal democrats or conservative republicans, it's not about
the person in the white house, it's about the ACTIONS taken by that person,
no matter what side of the coin they're on. You need to look above your
"loyalty" to a party and think about these actions with only a sense of logic
to guide your opinions. Only then will you see that each side is just as
bad as the other and the ultimate goal is and will always be more power
for those with it, and less for those without.
On the 21 million: it doesn't bother me as much as the recent events
with the Dept. of Homeland Security spending actual tax dollars without
anyone knowing (basically destroying all checks and balances put in
place under the reasoning of "national security") on a party. It's easy to
criticize someone when you're not in their shoes, so Bush throwing a
big party, while I hope I would never be that big of an asshole, I've
never been in that position so I have no idea what I'd do. It reminds me
of the time when Modest Mouse started selling their songs to advertisements
and many of their loyal fans (including myself) got pissed off, at which
time the word sellout was thrown around quite a bit. Isaac's reply was
something along the lines of "When you stop spending your parents'
money or you stop selling french fries, then you can criticize our
principles. We're just trying to pay for our goddamn electricity."
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Hah!
Tyshat communiest oui sound like!
By which I mean, you sound to me like you'd like everyone in the world to have the same amount of cashola in the bagola!
Life, as I would like to work like, doesn't work like that, because greed exists. We cannot all be equal or the world itself would explode and everyone would die a horrible flaming death.
Kud ed?
I also thought the number was closer to $40 million, which is a large gap to fill.
I recall reading articles in the NY Times and BBC Weekly that said the DC Area was asked to pay whatever the corperations didn't cover, though I can't find the link at the moment.
Take care all.
Ok so I used hippy liberals as a insult, in your context. But I used those words to describe them, and their feeble attempts to disrupt the inaugural ball. Is that such a bad thing to say?What I want to know is why the hell noname thinks that the terms
"hippie" and "liberal" are insults.
Clinton, the guy who did it because he could.I don't associate myself with any political group because they're essentially
all the same. The matter isn't really about who you support. Many people
seem to make cases against Clinton whenever Bush does something wrong,
how is this logic even remotely acceptable? When will people realize that
it's not about liberal democrats or conservative republicans, it's not about
the person in the white house, it's about the ACTIONS taken by that person,
no matter what side of the coin they're on. You need to look above your
"loyalty" to a party and think about these actions with only a sense of logic
to guide your opinions. Only then will you see that each side is just as
bad as the other and the ultimate goal is and will always be more power
for those with it, and less for those without.
"And anyway, I think that the trickle down theory (If that's what you call it) must work. The rich/poor gap in the US isn't big enough to think that money doesn't go around."
Actually, I believe America has the largest gap in the western world between the richest and the poorest classes, though that can partially be attributed to capitalism.
Take care all.
Well I'm glad you addressed the points of my post. Congratulations to you.
.opt
I'd attribute it mostly to capitalism. And, of course, I don't care about anybody who can't generate power and wealth in the land of the free.
Last November, I remember that there was an option on the ballot to screw the economy and promote inflation (Slyly camouflaged under the deceptively innocent title: Increase Minimum Wage). Lower classes, mostly stupid women, were the targets. (Obviously not women with IQs in the range of real numbers)
And there were enough idiots in this state to pass it! So screw anybody who can't figure this crap out. I have no sympathy at all!
And for anybody who wants to know, my second job payed more than minimum wage, and I've worked 75 hour weeks before to maintain myself extroardinary comfortably at 2 jobs. Weakness is no excuse. 21 million isn't a lot of money. And, uh, I have no love for liberals. And if I called you bleeding hearts, morons, caterpillars, humans, or people with "certain" ideas in the proper manner to make you take offense, then you will and you should. If anybody has a problem with being called a "Hippy Liberal" then the name caller has aced his communication skills test!
On a side note, I'm not calling anybody names. Except "weak." But you can't really accurately say that you have any semblance of strength of character, skill, or work ethic if you can't make a living in this country.
I'm just tired of people complaining about money. I understand that some girls get pregnant early, their boyfriends leave them (Or it was a one night stand), and their parents disown them. Then the government can only provide for their basic survival (maybe). My heart goes out to you. But you're not the overwhelming majority. So there's something to be dealt with here!
Harshly! Fine! Work or die!
Note: But 40 million is pretty steep. But, I mean, what else are they really going to do with it. I know that moving $40.00 from one store to another takes more than $40.00 worth of paperwork. I would blow it all at an innauguration party too, just to save time, work, and other expenses. We have money going places and to the right places.
Remember the athlete metaphor! So they're getting paid millions to play a game. There's all that money. Where else is it going to freaking go?
Last edited by Martyr; 01-22-2005 at 05:38 AM.
I'm not taking it personally. I think what I'm trying to say is I don't get how that's an insult, basically what opt said I guess.
However much was spent on the stupid thing, it was just a chance for all the big shots in Washington to throw themselves yet another party and for the Bush girls to look positively trampy. I just don't see why I should have to help foot the bill for booze and hookers I can't be a part of.
And I don't see how anyone has the right to complain about how this money could've been used to feed children and all that stuff. It's not like it was money already dedicated to a better purpose. Hell, the money put out for this "event" could've been used to fund drug cartels if not for the inaugural ball/ceremony/whatever.
Personally, I wash my hands of the entire ordeal, protestors and all. It doesn't make sense to do something like this, and it doesn't make sense to complain about something like this.
Signature by rubah. I think.
I actually find the people who say "stupid protestors" far more hilarious than the protestors themselves. It's utterly laughable how the people who claim to be "the true patriotic Americans" bash what America is, and was built upon.
I like Kung-Fu.
That's the main argument right there. Bush is a twit, don't get me wrong, but HE didn't spend the money on the ceremony. Nor did the U.S. Government, (although the City of D.C. did spend alot of its tax revenue on security) the money came from private donations made by major corporations and individuals. It's like the donations raised for political campaigns and the like, it's not the public's money so it's not our place to say what these people spend their money on. I hope that many of these corporations and individuals have also made significant contributions to charities and disaster relief.
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