another quiz

[Skyblade]

I must admit I hadn't known that. I just made the assumption that he gained new spells at level 30 like enemies commonly do.

Um, I suppose I can whip something up real fast.

1. When/Where is the earliest part of the game (the name of a location will suffice) that you can potentially have the items for and create the Lionheart Gunblade.

2. Name a boss from which you can Mug a Luck-J scroll.

3. There are consistently two Three Stars items in the game that you can obtain without having to to any refining. Briefly explain where and how to obtain both of them.

4. List the Elem-Def-J configuration required to absorb Tiamat's Dark Flare attack.

5. How many Rare cards can you possibly have by the time you leave for your first SeeD mission in Timber?

1. The Tomb of the Unknown King. As soon as you get Minotaur's Card.

2. Odin.

3. Mug Ultima Weapon, and defeat Omega Weapon.

4. There are many. Ultima and Protect, Firaga Blizzaga and Thundaga, Ultima and Life, Ultima and Shell, Ultima and Full-Life... As long as you can absorb Fire, Thunder, and Ice elements you are ok.

5. 5, I think. Quistis, Zell, Diablos, Ifrit, and MiniMog.

[Sepho]

1. The Tomb of the Unknown King. As soon as you get Minotaur's Card.

Unless you can get to Dollet before that (someone recently brought it up, but I don't remember being able to go back there before the trip to Deling City), then sounds about right.

2. Odin.

Yep.

3. Mug Ultima Weapon, and defeat Omega Weapon.

Well, the mugging Ultima Weapon may be a loop hole (depending on how you define "consistently" in this context). There's another way involving a side quest involving no fighting in which you can obtain a Three Stars. But I'll count it if you answer the last question correctly.

4. There are many. Ultima and Protect, Firaga Blizzaga and Thundaga, Ultima and Life, Ultima and Shell, Ultima and Full-Life... As long as you can absorb Fire, Thunder, and Ice elements you are ok.

The Fire, Thunder, and Ice part is what I was looking for. You got it.

5. 5, I think. Quistis, Zell, Diablos, Ifrit, and MiniMog.

You're missing one.

[nik0tine]

There are five parts to the final battle with Ulty folks. You are forgetting the after Ulty, Greiver, and junctioned griever, there is a short cut where Junctioned Griever's legs and hindquarters fall of and two spindles come out as alternate targets. This is followed by the final battle with the double-ulty thing. thus, FIVE PARTS! lol

I know this came a bit late, but I don't think that counts. Why? Because you can bypass all of that if you are strong enough. It's quite easy to kill Griever/Ulti before they lose thier legs. It's also possible to kill Ultimecia off before the other... thing... from under her appears that she draws apocolypse from.

[Skyblade]

Unless you can get to Dollet before that (someone recently brought it up, but I don't remember being able to go back there before the trip to Deling City), then sounds about right.

Well, the mugging Ultima Weapon may be a loop hole (depending on how you define "consistently" in this context). There's another way involving a side quest involving no fighting in which you can obtain a Three Stars. But I'll count it if you answer the last question correctly.

You're missing one.

You can get to Dollet before that, but you can't get to the beach with the Adamantoises until you have the mobile Garden, IIRC. If I'm wrong, then you can get it as soon as you leave Timber.

Oh, yes. I forgot about the Obel Lake side quest that sends you to the Mordred Plains. That's the other Three Stars, right?

(Oh, and by consistently, I thought you meant always there. You may not mug Ultima successfully every time you use the Mug command on him, but if you do successfully mug him, you will get a Three Stars, no matter what level he is.)

Seifer's card.

[Sepho]

You clarified everything beautifully.

Your turn.

[Skyblade]

Damn, I'm no good at coming up with questions. Well, I'll give it a shot. Um, let's see...

1. Name the default card rules used by Lunar Base.
2. How do you get the Ribbon item (to teach the Ribbon ability to a GF).
3. If you use Luv Luv Gs to max compatability with all GFs, will summoning GFs still change compatability? IE: I have full compatability with all, I summon Bahamut, will my compatability with the others drop?
4. Where are the two Rosetta Stones that you can get without refining?
5. What spell gives the second best junction to Vit (since Ultima is the best)?

[Sepho]

4. Where are the two Rosetta Stones that you can get without refining?

I may answer the others later (coming up on the Lunar Base in my current playthrough), if someone else doesn't before me, but I just wanted to address this one.

On either my first or second playthough, I was playing cards with one of the several card players who charge you for games while you're in the D-District prison, and he rewarded me with a Rosetta Stone after one game. In each subsequent playthough, I've always played at least 20 games, before giving up, but I haven't won it since. I can't recall where else you can obtain a Rosetta Stone outside of Ultimecia's Castle, but this may be the way that you're referring to. If it is, well, then that's the answer. If not, I'll think of it later, and has anyone else experienced this?

[rubah]

I thought you could get one from one of the esthar shops? By going in and out of it until it shows up? Or was that something else?

[Sepho]

That does sound familiar, and you're probably right.

[Skyblade]

Quite right, Rubah. Visit Cheryl's shop repeatedly, and (eventually) you will get a Rosetta Stone, and the other one I was referring to is in Ultimecia's Castle. So that question is done.

I've never heard of getting one from the card guys. I guess it's just really rare. I get all the ones I need by refining Curse Spikes into Dark Matter, into Shaman Stones, into Rosetta Stones, it takes a while, but you don't need that many of them. 6 at most (and even that assumes you didn't get Bahamut).

[FallenSilence]

5. What spell gives the second best junction to Vit (since Ultima is the best)?

That's Full-Life. I'm working on the others.

EDIT: Lunar Base uses all card rules by default.
Does the Ribbon item even exist in FF8?

[Tha*Guardian.NL]

Correct: Squall, Rinoa, Quistis, Selphie, Zell, Irvine, Laguna, Kiros, Ward, Seifer, and Edea.

You're correct about the other answers as well, so... Next set of questions, anyone?

isn't there a small part in the game when you play with elle or who is it ?

[FallenSilence]

If you mean Ellone, you don't actually get to control her as a character.

[rubah]

Ribbon is a pocketstation thing-_- so those of us without the attachment or the PC version don't get to enjoy the fun:P

[Skyblade]

Quite right. That's all of them except number 3. Anyone know the answer to that one?