Those radio stations aren't middlemen. They're not keeping a cut for themselves. If they were middlemen, the Red Cross themselves would qualify. My definition of a middleman is someone who's taking a cut for themselves--otherwise the only acceptable method of helping out would be to swim on over there and hand over a wad of cash to a tsunami victim in person.
Then who, in Raist's situation, is the middle man? Who is taking a cut for themselves?
The middleman isn't an issue in Raist's situation, as he's pointed out. It's being directly sold by a player and 100% of the funds is sent to the Red Cross. It remains, however, unethical as people are buying and selling something that is someone else's property.
I'm aware of that. I am, however, addressing your comment about 'cutting out the middleman'. If there's no middleman in the situation, what's to cut out? I'm certainly not the one who brought up the issue of a middleman.
Yes, EA's. And EA praised us highly. So what's the problem again?Originally Posted by Citizen Bleys
No servation without justification!
EA praised you unofficially and after the fact. The choice was made to sell other people's property without the knowledge or consent of the party owning said property.
If EA had consented and sponsored the event, it would be entirely commendable as well.
EA praised Crazy Joe and everyone who helped out, at the very beginning of the bloody event. Dammit, now you're going to make me look up threads.
HOLY CRAP UO.HALL HAS A LOT OF POSTS *searches*
*whew* found it
First off, Crazy Joe is an administrator at the official UO boards.
Secondly, Wilki is the official EA representative on the forums. He tells us the progress of bug fixes, can talk directly to the dev team, hints on news, responds to any feedback/criticism, etc. There are a couple members of the dev team itself who post on the forums, but they mainly stick to their forum.
Dammit, Wilki, I know you posted in here somewhere. >=o
Oh yeah, and I dunno if the one caused the other, but Wilki made it sound like Crazy Joe's event helped spark EA donating $250,000 to tsunami relief, along with doubling whatever donations any employee gave independently.
Just where the hell did he post? >=o
Bah, can't find it. Too many new threads. O_o Doomy, where's that thread where it talks about ebay first taking off the auctions? I tried to search for it, but it kept timing out.
Anyway, this event sparked a game-wide notice of Tsunami relief. This has brought it, as of today, over $4,600. It was praised by EA staff during the event(still on-going), has generated tons of money, and has put the tsunami relief effort in the faces of thousands of people who probably wouldn't have donated under normal circumstances. How the hell is this a bad thing? Would it have been better if it not happened at all? Give me a break.
Are timeshares illegal, or immoral?
The reason this arguement is going on is because you come from a gaming background where the gil-sellers are breaking the rules, and IGE's gil farmers interfere with your play by camping the major spawns. That's not really a problem in UO. The only major item I can think of that really has a problem with eBayers are power scrolls, and those are only found on the PvP facet. See, if you don't like the people selling the scrolls on eBay, you kill them and take the scrolls for yourself. It's that simple. I realize that S-E has policies against this, but EA and whatever's left of Origin DON'T.
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