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    which is why i was making fun of the whole thing

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    Also people who buy game money are really dumb, and lazy.

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    Why donate ingame currency when you can just send real money? There are hundreds of different organizations accepting donations for tsunami relief even here in Moncton, and that's a hole in the ground.
    Because I had 5 million UO gold on a shard that I don't even play on anymore. I was giving away something of no value to me.

    I'd rather do that then use ingame currency, as that is ethically reprehensible if not technically illegal.
    Do you even know the praise we got from EA? They loved it. If you don't believe me, read my LJ entry entitled "Wanna know why UO rocks?" or something.

    Companies like IGE will buy ingame currency for real money, although the price they buy at is much lower than the selling price, hence my preference for donating real money directly through UN-sponsored organizations.
    Crazy Joe auctioned off all the gold on Ebay. A good portion of it went for above the market price - some twice the normal value.

    If you want to donate, it is much better to send the $50 directly, that way IGE gets nothing for being bandits who sell other people's property, and the people in the tsunami-devastated countries get the full benefit of what the game player is giving up.
    I would never sell anything to those big-named money-grubbers.

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    Yeah, the gold sold at or above market rate on eBay, and the proceeds were donated to the Red Cross. It had nothing to do with the big gold brokers.

    This "ethically reprehensible if not technically illegal" charity has raised over $4,400 so far.

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    Sample auctions(including final sale price): shard - amount - auction title - final sale price

    Note: UO gold is worth approximately $7-8 per million on most shards(exception listed here is Siege, where gold is $15/mil).

    Siege $4,000,000 4 Mill Siege $60.00
    Siege $4,000,000 4 Mill Siege $120.00

    Great Lakes $5,000,000 5 Mill Great lakes $35.00
    Great Lakes $2,000,000 2 Mill Great lakes $30.00

    Europa $5,000,000 5 Mill Europa $34.00
    Europa $5,000,000 5 Mill Europa $71.02

    Baja $5,000,000 5 Mill baja $36.00
    Baja $5,000,000 5 Mill Baja $63.00

    Atlantic $5,000,000 5 Mill Atlantic $34.00
    Atlantic $4,000,000 4 Mill Atlantic $91.00


    Info found at http://www.gamerscharity.com/ultimaonlineredcross.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cid
    In the meantime, it pays for all your poor saps to sit here and waste your days on this message board.
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    Wezly shaves his private areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomgaze
    Yeah, the gold sold at or above market rate on eBay, and the proceeds were donated to the Red Cross. It had nothing to do with the big gold brokers.

    This "ethically reprehensible if not technically illegal" charity has raised over $4,400 so far.
    If people were paying over market value it's because they knew that the proceeds were going to tsunami relief and should have donated directly to the Red Cross, cut out the middleman, and not buy and sell someone else's property.

    It's easy to say that the ends justify the means, but once you start thinking like that, where does it stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen Bleys
    If people were paying over market value it's because they knew that the proceeds were going to tsunami relief and should have donated directly to the Red Cross, cut out the middleman, and not buy and sell someone else's property.
    Let's see...what do you think they thought was better...giving $40 to Red Cross and not getting anything in return, or giving $40 and getting cool stuff in a game that these people play 24/7?

    It's easy to say that the ends justify the means, but once you start thinking like that, where does it stop?
    When the corporation owning the game praises us, I don't think we did anything wrong.

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    This isn't FFXI, EA doesn't pretend that the virtual economy is independent of the real economy, nor does it expect the players to.

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    Not to mention that hundreds of places are auctioning things to raise money. A few local radio stations are auctioning signed instruments, concert tickets, and cds, with full proceeds going to relief funds.

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    See, the radio stations are auctioning off things that were either owned by them or donated to them for that specific cause. That is entirely commendable.

    This is not the same thing as selling something that a) does not exist except in a purely abstract way, and b) even in said abstraction, is the property of another person or organization.

    And WesLY, S-E is not *pretending* anything. Gil is legitimately their intellectual property, no ifs ands or buts. Just because it has been assigned a market value due to the management of it being worth something to somebody does not eliminate S-E's intellectual property rights. That's like saying that it's OK to sell drugs because they have a value to someone. You don't sell drugs, do you WesLY? Would you support a crack cocaine dealer who was selling drugs in schoolyards to raise money for tsumani relief?

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    I was refering to your complaints about the 'middle man'. I really dont care about your complaints otherwise.

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