i listened to them while i was going through a hard time and i found it enjoyable. but now i put one of there cd's and hear "wiggy wiggy wa, b**ch, b**ch, rape. rape rape rape. eminem's a p**sy, wanna do his mum. yeah!" i wouldn't say they have any REAL talent but they can make you feel better about your self if you're feeling bad....they are pretty screwed up.