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    If you want to learn new enemy skills, its best to first manipulate the creature you want to learn from. creatures like zemzelet never uses white wind, so you have to manipulate it in order to learn it. Also look for the enemy skill "Aqualung from Jenova Life in the City Of The Ancients. Its Very powerfull. Also, When You've just left Midgar, look for the custom Sweeper to learn Matra Magic. It's very usefull if you plan to level up later in the mythril Mines. And another: The Materia keeper in Mt. Nibbelheim uses "Trine" Enemy skill. Don't miss it.

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    I understand that you're new, and you're trying to establish yourself as someone who knows what they're talking about (and you do), but you have to read the thread:

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    Most everything has already been covered by DJ and BG, but I would like to point one last thing out:

    There's a very important materia to have for use in learning enemy skills, and that's the Manipulate materia. Some Enemy Skills (such as White Wind or Mighty Guard, for some examples) will never be willfully cast on your party by the enemy, as they're supportive/healing, rather than damaging. The Manipulate materia allows you to manipulate an enemy (who'da thunk) and enables you to have access to some or all of that enemy's "attacks" (which you can in turn cast on your party, or the character with the Enemy Skill materia equipped).

    Manipulating enemies is literally the only way to learn some valuable Enemy Skills. I believe Cait Sith may come with one equipped (actually, I think that's Transform). Whatever the case, get one.
    But, anyway. Welcome to the forums; always glad to see a new helpful member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SePhO_zO
    Dragon Zombie's randomly cast Pandora's Box upon the depletion of their HP. That means the first Dragon Zombie you fight may not use it, but the second may, and vice versa. If you kill a Dragon Zombie and it doesn't use the attack, fight another one.
    Either I have rotten luck or the odds of Dragon Zombies casting Pandora's Box goes way down after the first time. I had one game where I didn't get Pandora's Box from the first one and went back and fought dozens of them and they never used it in the latter battles.

    I eventually gave up and started a new game; the first Dragon Zombie I met promptly cast it before dying. So it may well be randomly cast, but the Dragon Zombies seem to behave differently after the first encounter At least in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG-57
    To learn Chocobuckle the chocobo has to be at a level divisible by 4. Try the chocobo scratches near Mideel. Also, the chocobo will counter whoever cast the Level 4 Suicide with Chocobuckle.
    He forgot to mention that you MUST have captured a Chocobo before, or it will not work no matter what. I wasted an hour before I realized it. :frust:
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG-57
    Either I have rotten luck or the odds of Dragon Zombies casting Pandora's Box goes way down after the first time. I had one game where I didn't get Pandora's Box from the first one and went back and fought dozens of them and they never used it in the latter battles.

    I eventually gave up and started a new game; the first Dragon Zombie I met promptly cast it before dying. So it may well be randomly cast, but the Dragon Zombies seem to behave differently after the first encounter At least in my experience.
    I would have recommended fighting the Dragon Zombies you encounter on the "steps" before fighting Jenova SYNTHESIS, as they seem to use it more often. You have also have run into a glitch. It appears the game is full of them; something I hadn't known about until I came here.

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    UltimaLimit, I didn't know about that. I always went for Chocobuckle after getting the Highwind , the last E-skill orb, and a chocobo stable.

    SePhO_zO, I agree about it being a glitch. I see no logical reason to have a randomly encountered monster to behave differently in different encounters. Only a sadistic programmer would have deliberately done that.

    EDIT: Oh, and Gregoriev, get Death Force before you go for Roulette. If you cast Death Force on the party and the Death Dealers, they'll keep on casting Roulette without killing themselves or the party, but you'll still learn it. Death Force may also make the Kiss of Death item actually useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJZen
    If you just want the quick answer to your question, no. There are specific enemy skills that can be learned. You don't have to worry about running out of space because only the skills specifically meant to be learned can be learned by that materia. You can't learn just any skill. I guess most skills just aren't interesting enough or mimic another spell/ability you already have in some way. For example, Shadow Flare is the only dark element spell in the game, so you can learn it. Bolt2 can be learned by levelling up the Bolt materia, so there's no need to learn it from an enemy.
    Shadow Flare is non-elemental. There is no Dark element in Final Fantasy VII.

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