WHAT THE..?

[Shoden]

you never find out about Irvines past except the orphanage same with Selphie and Quistis (in a way)

[Flamethrower]

For all we know, Flo could be Irvine's biological mother. Unlikely, but possible.

That would be quite ironic, the peaceloving hippie gives birth to a sharpshooter.

[amratis]

Nah, it's a commonly misinterpreted detail; I initially overlooked it as well.

Good to know I wasnt the only one who did, *chuckle* Its really weird, I cant believe that it never crossed my mind. lol

amra

[Sepho]

Yeah, we often get new members who read the FAQ thread, and their first reaction is "What the-?".

I'd be lying if I said that I learned about the relationship before my third playthrough.

[GhandiOwnsYou]

hmmmm, never noticed the thing with the cards....

So lets see, assuming the trend stays in place...

Irvine is Flo's son....
Quistis is....I forget
Selphie is....wait. nope. Selphie is NOT the daughter of the 15 year old Trabian Seed member...lol

[Flamethrower]

The person who has Quistis' card is that guy from Balamb Garden who's obsessed with Quistis. I would certainly hope he's not her father.

[Sepho]

Actually, you can win Quistis' card from any of the three "Trepies", including the guy you're referring to, as well as either of the two female students in the second floor classroom. I've won it from both of them.

[ShivaBlizzard8]

I think that looking for the secondary characters' biological parents (Quistis, Selphie, Irvine, etc) based on cards or not is somewhat of a faulty premise since it is stated that orphanages were common when Squall and Co. were kids, filled with children who's parents were killed in the Sorceress War with Adel.

Biological parents' deaths works in the case of Ellone, and although Squall only lost his mother, his father was in somewhat of a unique situation. I think it can be assumed that everyone else's parents are dead. It would also explained why there are so many unattached teenagers ready to join military academies at relatively young ages. The large populations of Balamb and Galbadia Gardens speaks to a generation of people with no where else to go.

[seiyuimore]

I think that looking for the secondary characters' biological parents (Quistis, Selphie, Irvine, etc) based on cards or not is somewhat of a faulty premise since it is stated that orphanages were common when Squall and Co. were kids, filled with children who's parents were killed in the Sorceress War with Adel.

Biological parents' deaths works in the case of Ellone, and although Squall only lost his mother, his father was in somewhat of a unique situation. I think it can be assumed that everyone else's parents are dead. It would also explained why there are so many unattached teenagers ready to join military academies at relatively young ages. The large populations of Balamb and Galbadia Gardens speaks to a generation of people with no where else to go.

Ah, I thought people join Balamb or Gardens because they give high salaries and well, fames. There are so many people who has nowhere else to go??

[ShivaBlizzard8]

Well, yeah, being a SeeD is a pretty good job - similar to why many young people in real life who sign up for the military; its secure, it pays well, you can act out childhood GI Joe fantasies, etc. However, most real life people run off and join the military at what - 18? 21?

But in the FF world, you have kids at Balamb Garden who are 11, 12, 13 years old. (Think Junior classmen you rescue on Disc 2). The Gardens began as orphanages, and in many respects they still look like that to me. Why are they the the living place of middle schoolers? They are obviously too young to do much fighting (they were huddled together cowering during the Garden War), so why are they there?

Also, you don't really hear many people talk about their parents or families, except for Zell, even though it would seem easy to visit them.

What makes sense is that the Gardens are the only home these kids have. Although its a military academy, and students are expected to pull their wieght in that eventaully, in many ways it still works like a giant orphanage. Also, we KNOW that during the war with Adel a lot of people got killed, and a lot of children were subsequently orphaned. They would all be teenagers now, and its unlikely enough adults were left around to adopt all of them. So where do they go? Garden. It explains why there are so many young people there. In a similar vein, I also thinks it implys that most people there don't have biological parents who are alive - hence it doesn't work to look for Quistis' Selphie's parents, etc.

But its just my personal theory, I don't claim that its fact.

[Squall04]

For all we know, Flo could be Irvine's biological mother. Unlikely, but possible.

That would be quite ironic, the peaceloving hippie gives birth to a sharpshooter.

Maybe that's why he was sent to an orphanage.


Also, do we know anything about Seifer's parents? Cid has his card, and I wouldn't really consider him a secondary character.

[rubah]

I'd say dead like the rest of them.

Cid is the closest he has to a father figure-- he's probably the one that keeps him from being tossed out of garden.

[Squall04]

Ya, that's a good point.