those characters where complete F**z compared to Cloud, Cid, Vincent, Squall, Seifer and Auron. the thing was tidus annoyed the hell outta me coz of his goddamn voice over argh my ears where burning in despair. Plus the way the stories are set out are too basic and no challenge to understand even though its a good thing the challenge of ff7 was good. Zidane and the rest of ff9 excluding Vivi where total hell the trance system put me off the speeds of the ATB bars ticked me off and the summons to late in the game was even worse but thats just me being picky about Final Fantasy different ppl have different oppinions which is why no one can win an arguement over the greatest ff ever made