Final Fantasy VII: Really the best?

[-Zohar-]

Hey, Im a new member, obviously. Ive been reading these forums for a while, they are quite good, I like 'em .
Well, heres my view on it. Yes, there are blaring flaws right out of the box, especially with this tales' mood (like you just stated). I just feel this part should be elaborated. Forced scenarios make me think of all that hoohah of the Wall Market, if you recall. First off, I will never forget the horrid pain of that event. The running about of the town, the talking to random people, the somehow-figuring-out-after-4-damn-hours that you must go and become an unconvincing transvestite (and when I first played VII when I was 9, my father was most horrified and thought it was a homosexual erotic movie with bad pixelation...rofl), you get the picture. It could have been executed in a much more fun, fluent fashion, but it just...wasn't. >.> Wutai is another example. The Golden Saucer, which is entertaining and all, is another obvious scene. Sure, it is decent for character development and leads into the interesting sidemissions such as chocobo racing and the like...but it seems deprived...like a waste of time, if you can understand.
The characters, in my opinion, are a mixed bag. I absolutely connect with some but others annoy the living **** outta me. I like FFVII a ton and it is in my top 5 games of all time list but its because the core story is so intriguing and there is a great depth about it. Also, it is a perfect meld of science fiction and fantasy, which is something FF loves to try out on occasion (FFIX, anyone? >.>) Well, the main characterization problem is...the protagonist/antagonist duo. You might say OMFG WTF BBQ I LOVE CLOUD AND SEPH!!11!!11111...BUT! Look deeper. Its not even their pasts. I love the history behind them. I just do not build fondness to their trite personality qualities.
Cloud-Ultimate badass hero who can pwn you but cannot remember much of his past (or maybe he just doesnt want to...sorta...forced mental block you can say)
Sephiroth-Ultimate warrior for the terrible cause. Has no morales and is genetically created by government lunatics.
Don't you get sick of the characters that can fill certain roles perfectly?
I mean, with at least Red XIII, Barett, and Vincent they have freshly created twists to their actual person. Remember that Red XIII is a teenager emotionally, but with many more years to live and a great mental capacity. What is he? 42 or something in human years, and above that in intellegence...But for his species, he is just a young teenage youth. He has a lot of weight on his shoulders, having legendary ancestry and the duties to protect the canyon of his hometown. So, something like this makes for an interesting character, right? Barett has reasons to be Mr. T, and Vincent plays a great role in the story and also great background information/history for the events at hand. SE was able to do a lot with these type of characters, so I do not see exactly how the characters are so uninteresting as a whole.
Note: I HATE AERIS >.> (Ready for hate mail)
The thing about FF6=FF7? I know, Squeenix is a greedy company, which is evidence of its recent FFVII milking...AC! Better not suck, now...I feel bad for the FFVII haters though, because of this whole ado about the SE post-FFVII FFVII project (w/e its called rofl)
Well...I havent played FFVI, but Im going to pretty soon b/c of the Anthology collection (when I get the time and cash, Im getting giddy over everyone saying "CHRONO TRIGGER FFVI ARE ALMOST AS GOOD AS XENOGEARS!11!" ) so, I'll have my views on the matter soon...but I doubt Squeeny is that corrupt, yes, no? O well. Wait and see...wait and see...

[DocFrance]

FF7 the best? Far from it. Rather, FFVI pretty much defines the series in excellence.

Well, at least it used to define the series. Now the series is defined by breasts and milking cows dry.

[Raistlin]

FFT > FF6&7 > FF1-5 > getting your head bashed in > FF8-X-2.

[Trumpet Thief]

chaos: Agree with the above two posts.

[Quina]

What about FFIX? It's better than head bash at least!

VII was great but not the best one.

[Raistlin]

What about FFIX? It's better than head bash at least!

Nah.

[JunotDe]

Final Fantasy 7 is obviously the best Story Wise its the thing that got me into the game and makes we wanna learn more and more about it. The graphics are terrible they dont even have hands yet hang off stuff but the FMV's are still pretty tight and that doesnt even matter..People still play gameboy's n what not even though it looks like a pile of on a small screen and if theres a girl with huge tits bouncing like tifa's its bound to be atleast a mediocre game The battle system or whatever its called is my Favourit of all the FF's i've played and the characters they have and how they all look is pretty fresh too Im rambling and its cool peace

What Do I gotta say?

FF7 !IS! The Best Final Fantasy ever created
And my favourit RPG of All Time

[Destination0]

FF7 IS THE BEST GAME EVER

lol... :laugh: nice joke...

FF7 may be one of the best but not THE BEST

some ppl say that it has the best plot..
hello...ever heard of Xenogears or FFT...

In FFVII all u do is chase a guy and until second disc u dont even know y r u chasing him...and the only motivation to chase him is because your hero says "I have to settle the score." ...so u just chase him like a moron...
but I do like few thing about its story and one of the best twist was when one of ur main charecter gets KILLED...that was one hack of a surprise....
every game had good and bad things but the events in Wall Market was too much for me....Honey Bee Inn, Mukki, cloud, transvestite.....awaeeeeee
That was Sick!!!!!!
after that I lost complete respect for this game....

So if u like FF7 fine...
If u dont like FF7 fine...
everyone has their own opinion...
and I just stated mine...

[ShunNakamura]

What gets me to play VII is nothing more then the gameplay and occasional side quest.... I actually had a huge problem paying attention to the story... actually having to reload once or twice cause I fell asleep while hitting the confirm button :rolleyes2 ..... I never fell asleep during VI or tactics... both I was just waiting for the next development.

The different combinations of materia are fun to try out but no doubt I'll bore of it quickly.... the game really isn't so difficult as to really push you. Keep in mind there I am talking about if you just go straight through(no optionals). That way you can just walk through the game. They should have had an ultra hard setting or something... making the battles much more challenging. Actually that seems to be a problem with all final fantasies.... meaning you need a good story.... and if you keep missing plot developments due to falling asleep then there must be a problem somewhere.

Good game it is, but not the best.

[FallenAngel411]

I don't know why exactly, but I really love VII.......I actually started with X, and worked my way backwards, and somehow VII just gave me this really weird, entranced feeling. I remember spacing out constantly while I was playing, just wondering about the vague and confusing plot, which still barely makes no sense to me but I can't seem to get out of my head .

Plus, Sephiroth? Yeah....YUM. lol

[Shoden]

well at least on 7 you could GAMBLE and battle till the death without going to gameover.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

VI is far superior to VII. And, as was noted earlier, Xenogears has a FAR better storyline than any other RPG I've ever seen, Tactics also had a better story AND was just funner to play. VII is nowhere NEAR the best, it isn't a bad game by any stretch of the imagination but it is most certainly not the best.

[Shoden]

*coughlosercough*

you dont even know the greatest ff game in the series when you see it do you, VI was old fashioned compared to VII, it had a typical Medieval setting whilst VII had Future and the plot and Story where actually realistic and believable unlike VI and i think Destai can civer a hell of alot more ground than me if you think im full of crap then your in a shock seriously i didnt even like Vi that much i still class it as MEDICORE ont he scale of 0-10 i class it as 5 and VII as 8, VII= PS2 release Vi= FINISHED

[Sepho]

*coughlosercough*

you dont even know the greatest ff game in the series when you see it do you, VI was old fashioned compared to VII, it had a typical Medieval setting whilst VII had Future and the plot and Story where actually realistic and believable unlike VI and i think Destai can civer a hell of alot more ground than me if you think im full of crap then your in a shock seriously i didnt even like Vi that much i still class it as MEDICORE ont he scale of 0-10 i class it as 5 and VII as 8, VII= PS2 release Vi= FINISHED

If you believe FFVI has a "medievil" setting, then you need to actually play the game rather than look at a few screenshots.

You can favor whichever game you choose - it's your opinion - but seeing you come into every thread that suggests that FF7 is not the most absolutely wonderful game in existence and telling people they're blatantly wrong for not agreeing with said opinion is becoming a little tiring.

I would love it if you expressed why you enjoy the game so much, as opposed to consistently stating why "FF7 is teh rox0r, FF6 is teh CRAP".

realistic and believable

Puh-lease. Elaborate, I mean.

[Shoden]

i deent speak like that, thats 1 problem the other is 6 was a game that never got my full attention so i never noticed its setting its futuristic in a slight medieval setting.

if you noticed the game explained lifestream to mako to Materia and what Materia was, everything connected n a way that made it slightly believable unlike 8 which shot into time compression but with 7 meteor was a slow process and with these factories and big companies it sounds realistic in a way, Jenova even though its hard to prove aliens exist the Jenova piece of Final Fantasy added to this chain of FF7 everything added up even sidequests which made you understand the game better