Never said I was right, just answered the question. And no, I won't get dragged into a huge debate/argument/Senate Meeting, no matter what you say. *runs*Originally Posted by Destai
Never said I was right, just answered the question. And no, I won't get dragged into a huge debate/argument/Senate Meeting, no matter what you say. *runs*
Last edited by Rase; 02-13-2005 at 01:44 AM.
Boy am I an unfunny ass.
Ya you better!
*shakes fist*
(*jumping over the no-it's-not-the-best/yes-it-is-too posts...*Sorry, I had to pick on you guys.
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And the fact that VII is still played by many fans today despite the now-inferior graphics is--in my humble opinion--testament to the fact that VII in general is a great enough game to be thoroughly enjoyable, even though the characters usually look like an 8-yr-old lumped them together from Play-Doh.
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Chatting about Final Fantasy...good.Avoiding killer evil fairies...not so much.
I'M NOT JUDGING ANYTHING ON THE GRAPHICS... I JUST PERSONALLY THINK IT'S NOT COMPARABLE TO NEWER GAMES.
I stated in that last post why it is, So why isnt it?
COMPARING BATTLE SYSTEMS, THERE WAS A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT IN FUTURE FF GAMES.
COMPARING MUSIC, THERE ARE BETTER OST'S IN EVERY GAME NOW; IE, LESS REOCCURING THEMES.
GRAPHICS ARE A NOBRAINER, BUT I'M NOT COMPARING THOSE.
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OR WAS THE QUESTION DIRECTED TO SOMEONE ELSE?
WOW GOOD POINT BUT-
The FFVII was just as good and I for one (Im sure theres many others) enjoy VII's much more than VIII's, IX's was pretty good but I prefered the materia system, I liked X's but alot of people didnt, X-2's was just so random, Maybe realistic but it was so hard to form a stratedgy in such fluent battles. I certainly prefer the materia system to all of those other games and the battle system is just as good as the rest and better than most.COMPARING BATTLE SYSTEMS, THERE WAS A MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT IN FUTURE FF GAMES.
Less recurring themes? Many say FFVIII was one of the best FF OST's and you cant tell em that had little recurring themes, or IX, or even X. X-2 wasnt worht listening too. The sound quality is bad but to be fair you didnt mention that. The music itself despite of the quality is some of the best ,if not the best in any FF game.COMPARING MUSIC, THERE ARE BETTER OST'S IN EVERY GAME NOW; IE, LESS REOCCURING THEMES.
Im using gamemusic.com as an example. This isnt accurate and it is possible people could rate it twice and Im not compensationg for that
VII has 127 reviews, 2 people gave it less than five stars.
VIII has 83 reviews, 6 people gave it less than five.
IX has 112 reviews, 7 people gave it les than five.
X has 101 reviews, 7 people gave it less than five.
You might be saying VII has been around much longer than those OST,s. Well it sold out on that site ages ago and hasnt been in stock for ages. Theres not much of a difference and VII did just as well with low quality midis.
I GUESS EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION.
ff 7 is the best no doubt about it.It had the best storyline and villens i mean look at sephiroth! he was one of the best! and the weapons.nothing could of been done about the graphics but really who cares? i for one dont
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Meh, FFVII in my humble opinion cast it's highly superior cousins, Xenogears, and Final Fantasy Tactics (The true best Final Fantasy followed closely by VI and IX) into shadow with the massive amount of hype that accompanied it's release.
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Final Fantasy VII is, in my opinion, the greatest video game ever made. I can't help but think that everyone who extols FFIV and FFVI while denigrating FFVII suffers from some sort of combination of nostalgia and desire to go against the mainstream. Having played every FF, I still think VII has the most compelling plot and the best characters. People who find "inconsistencies" in the story are probably missing details. VII challenges the gamer with a complex story that never quite reveals everything. This was not a flaw; it was an intentional decision designed to enhance the game. Criticism of the graphics is asinine; the FMV's and prerendered backgrounds were incredible for their time. Musically, only VI really rivals VII.
FFVII really only suffers from the onus of bearing the title as "the best." There will always be people who attack it, but these attacks are based more on what FFVII did on a social scale rather than the game itself. If nothing else, FFVII stands as perhaps the single most influential video game ever made. It, more than anything, is responsible for the explosion of the RPG genre outside Japan, and also was one of the pioneers of the strategy guide.
Or maybe they believe they are supieror games.
How come it's seems like a lot of people think this, that if you like FFIV or FFVI more than FFVII your just trying to be different and "cool"?
Boy am I an unfunny ass.
It might be because that's what seems to pass for "cool" on an FF forum. If everyone likes FF enough to be involved with this forum, then it stands to reason that some people will try to stand out by dismissing the mainstream opinion. There seems to be a massive rift between the so-called "old-school" and "new-school" gamers, and old-school seems to rally to those two games, while new-school supports FFVII and either VIII or X. However, both of the arguments are flawed, because both are so interested in bashing the other that they ignore whatever the other side has to say.Or maybe they believe they are supieror games.
How come it's seems like a lot of people think this, that if you like FFIV or FFVI more than FFVII your just trying to be different and "cool"?
One of the things that leads me to question the old-school view is that FFV is never mentioned while FFIV and VI are celebrated. FFV is the link between the games, and in some ways the culmination of the original style of the series, yet is almost totally ignored. This could lead an observer to endorse the influence the nostalgia factor: the "we played FF before FFVII so we're inherently better" view.
New-school, of course, isn't blameless either, since so many of its proponents have never played pre-VII Final Fantasies. You can't fully justify dismissing the older FF's if you haven't played them. Further, many of them probably do put too much significance on graphics. And, of course, there is bound to be bias (and quite a bit) toward their generation of games.
Returning to the old-school point, it seems to me that most FFIV fans on this site would probably prefer FFIV as it appeared with Nintendo than as it appeared on FF Chronicles. This would weaken their case, as the 'old' FFIV (or FFII, if you really prefer) was edited and censored to the point that it became ridiculous. Just a (notable) point.
I am not trying to offend members of either side. However, this is really how the argument sometimes appears: biased on both sides.
Now, as to my personal opinions, I honestly do feel that FFVII is the best FF. I listed my reasons earlier; they are my opinions, and no one is forced to agree with them. However, I have legitimate reasons, which is more than quite a few people here can say.
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