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    That was a great read, Sir Bahamut. Well done. Opened my eyes to a lot of new stuff.

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    meh i refuse to believe it because of common sense that Ultimecia has long thin BLACK wings grey hair and the way she almost killed Rinoa itd make no sense but dif ppl have dif oppinions and will argue to death to defend or argue towards it

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    Cant for the life of me remember where but I've read extremely long posts theorizing the Rinoa-Ultamecia theory. It's possible, its just one of those crazy time paradox loop thingys that is almost impossible to understand.

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    Well, there have been such topics on this forum, some time ago now. There have also been huge discussions on Gamefaqs, as well as other places.

    But really, it's such a controversial issue that there's bound to have been at least one huge debate on it on any FF forum with a sufficiently large amount of members.

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    if Square says it isnt true then it isnt true and thats that

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    Any time I see a thread like this I keep thinking my corroted artery needs a trim.....

    Seriously, this is the calmest one of these threads has ever been. For that I'm thankful. VERY thankful.

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    I was just curious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah
    She isn't.

    You may lay your tinfoil hat on the counter there, and remember, you saw NOTHING.
    classic...Square said she ISN'T and they WROTE the storyline...Goddamn this R=U shiiz..If You stare at a fire long enough you start to see images dancing...Apple=Apple End It.

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    I like the theory. I think there's a couple of lines in the Japanese version about Griever that make it less plausable, but meh, I prefer it as a twist.
    Personally Square official statements and the Japanese script aside, I think the R=U version may make more sense than the none R=U one. It at least fits the story well and improves the plot a lot IMO.

    I say what I think. If you disagree, then that is up to you.

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    Get a bunch of FF fans together and they can come up with a lot of things.

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    Like Gogo's real identity for example.

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    Square has denied the theory? Oh really? Are you referring to the Square-X article, where this "Jesse" says "I called my friend at Square", who subsequently deny it after calling japan? Please.

    "Jesse" didn't provide a shred of evidence that he actually KNEW anyone in Square, or give us any reason to believe he was telling the truth at all.

    I could say in counter: "Well, I'm a good personal friend of Sakaguchi, and he said the R=U theory IS true" and you'd have just as much reason to believe me as "Jesse".

    So please, enough with this nonsense that Square denied the theory. Square haven't made ANY official statements on ANY theory, and they won't either. After all, all our arguing is good for their business, so why on earth would they put and end to it? The R=U debate is one of the things which has kept FF8 alive and kicking even now, many years after it's release, so do you honestly think they'd want to put an end to it?

    By the way, not to sound cocky or anything, but the link I posted earlier is a result from 2 years of "extremely long posts theorizing the Rinoa-Ultimecia theory", with many other users, so if you think the R=U theory is ridiculous or impossible, I would advise you read that link first.
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    Well "Rinoa is not Ultimecia" certainly doesnt leave much of an impact. Sounds more like a receptionists reply than anyone high up. To be honest, Who decides? Square and the FFVIII staff is a large group arent they? Who even said that statement? It sounds like they didnt give it much thought but it would certainly be a brilliant plot twist and would actually come close to making a character out of Ultimecia. I certainly like the theory.

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    in the game it says Ultimecia is many generations ahead of them
    many is about 6-8 and a generation is 20 years times the numbers and you'll get 140 years if its 7 120 if 6 and 160 if 8. if Rinoa is a full sorceress than she wouldnt have grey hair unless she used peroxide and lots of it or used magic, she could of kept her friends alive using her powers and theres the old "i don't want to hurt anyone with my powers" thingy thats all im saying but theres strong evidence for and against so its a thing of choice we dont know if its true or not.

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    How dya spell farfetched? Oh right...

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