I love it when people do that.
I love it when people do that.
Dude, no one really cares at this point, since there is no definate proof of anything. Everything about R=U are all conspiracies, and nothing is definite. If you posted it before many times, there is no reason to post it again. Can you please not post that anymore? We've all seen it by now.Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
Last edited by §håd0w; 02-10-2005 at 09:31 PM.
I'm sorry, but I posted the link very early on in this topic, yet despite that, the topic went on with all sorts of questions and comments that would have been completely uneccessary(save a few) if they had read what I linked to. Even after I linked to it again, questions kept popping up which I had answered in that FAQ.Dude, no one really cares at this point, since there is no definate proof of anything. Everything about R=U are all conspiracies, and nothing is definite. If you posted it before many times, there is no reason to post it again. Can you please not post that anymore? We've all seen it by now.
Then someone asks for "the hints", and guess what, they can also be found in the site I linked to.
So you'll have to forgive me if I get somewhat frustrated...
You havent tried to use the link, have you? (SPOILER)Gamefaqs dont allow direct links. XD
The link works fine for me =P
Its your link : p
IT'S COOL MAN... I GET CARRIED AWWWAY AT TIEMS.
SHOCKING TRUTH
The 'painting puzzle' in Ultimecia's Castle is a classic. As many of you will know, the correct answer to the puzzle is 'Vividarium et intervigilium et viator', or 'In the Garden sleeps a Messenger'. Now, is there a 'messenger' in any 'garden' in the world? Why, yes - there's Selphie. The 'little messenger girl', as Seifer calls her, because of her role in the Dollet mission. But what's that 'sleeping' line about? Well, there's strong evidence that Selphie is actually a sorceress and doesn't know it. She can use magic without having to draw or junction it - just like the other sorceresses in the game. It's mentioned in the Tutorial that sorceresses possess the inherent ability to use magic. Selphie only uses magic during her Limit Break, though - evidence that it's a repressed ability, something she doesn't openly acknowledge. Thus, one can only prove that she is a secret, 'sleeping' sorceress.
See what I'm getting at? Selphie is clearly Ultimecia. They look completely different, but then we know that sorceresses can change how they look. Selphie finds Squall and Laguna attractive - two different men from two different time periods - and she knows firsthand about Ellone's special ability. Thus, she is shown to have motive and method for wanting to compress time.
So, how about Griever? Think back to that painting puzzle. 'In the Garden sleeps a Messenger'. Diablos, the winged demon GF, utilises a time/space attack called 'Dark Messenger'. Griever and Diablos are very similar, physically - similar size, four limbs, two wings, fanged jaws and a long tail. Griever's unique attack, Shockwave Pulsar, is a bit like a superpowerful version of Diablos' Dark Messenger. Both attacks draw the enemy into the center of a spheroid conflagration of astronomical energy. Tiamat is proof that Ultimecia can alter GFs; thus we can conclude that Griever is an altered form of Diablos. During early scenes in the game, Selphie hints at finding Squall attractive. They spent a lot of time together during the events in the game - and perhaps afterward - so Selphie would easily know enough about him to base her prized GF on the leonine creature on his ring and gunblade.
It's all there, folks - even the costumes are a dead giveaway. Selphie and Ultimecia are the two most under-dressed characters in FFVIII.
There can be no doubt whatsoever that Selphie is Ultimecia.
Haha, a good presentation, and a good point. However, I don't think S=U is comparable in plausibility to R=U, at least not based on those arguments. The Selpie being a sorceress arguments, that are crucial to the theory, are particularly weak, and Diablos and Griever looking similar? And wanting to compress time for Laguna and Squall because she finds them attractive?
And with the last line, about there being no doubt, I hope that wasn't an implication towards the attitude of the R=U theory, because only an idiot would seriouisly claim that there can be no doubt when it comes to such a theory.
Anyway, it's obvious your point was to try and show that R=U is as silly as S=U, but in terms of plausibility based on arguments, I wouldn't compare the two at all. The arguments used for R=U, though they may be weak, are certainly stronger than those you presented for S=U, something I hope you can agree on without me having to actually start arguing.
Selphie is an evil sorceress... Yeah maybe this topic is pretty stupid.
wow that seems err nice
if Rinoa was a sorceress wouldnt she have changed her looks to try the powers out? i mean she never actually tried her powers out in the game
LET THE HAMMER FALL
Hear, Hear, Big D!
Now *THAT* makes sense
i heard somewhere something about edea being ultimecia because ultimecia eventually went back in time and gave herself her own powers so that she could be ... reincarnated or something. i dont quite believe that, but what do you guys think?
I think that's a bunch of crap.Why would she do that?Wait,i'm getting ahead of myself. Have you finished the game yet?Or do you have it?
yeah i have it... the last time i finished it was about a year and a half ago though. im inside lunatic pandora where u fight mobile type 8 right now... and too busy with other games >_<
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