BIG BADGUYS or little badguys

[Del Murder]

Why is that?

Easier to identify with.

[Flamethrower]

I like villians to come in all sizes, but I generally find that the best ones are the human-like ones.

[kikimm]

Definitley smaller. And human-looking, for godsake. I, personally, am tired of villains in games being huge, warped, beasts with limbs going everywhere.....it's not intimidating AT ALL. Sin? A pushover. Not scary. it's always the little guys that I'm worried about. Why are they so small? They always have some big tricks.

For once, I'd love to play a video game that has a HUMAN for the villain, from start to finish. Even Sephiroth got warped at the end, which disappointed me. Maybe I'm silly, but a human would be much more scary, and I'd be a hell of a lot more nervous.

Ugh. Rant is done.

[ShunNakamura]

I had this discusion a while ago.... And Kefka would by far scare me the worst.

Sephiroth probably wouldn't do anything thing to me unless I was in his way... and then I could expect a fast death more hten likely.

Vs.

Kefka.... he would scare my pants off... sure in the game he is quite a pushover... but he is off his rocker and you never know what he would do.... particually if you made him mad.... heck even if you were his ally you couldn't guarante yourself safety. His insanity and clownish face and evil laugh make him scary..... and funny... but don't laugh to his face.... that wouldn't be smart.

[Gunblades]

Sin wasnt a mindless killing machine, Sin was the Armour of YuYevon who got sadistic pleasure out of destroying the world

Kuja, now theres a joke.

I dont identify with ANY villains in FF, i rarely identify with any villians because being a badguy is often the easy way out. When you look at Manhunter with william petersen, i can cry for the toothfairy because you see a point where he may finally get a normal life and then his own madness ruins it. It isnt his human form or even any humanity that i can understand, it's his mind. If anything Human looking badguys repel me.

This is fantasy, a realm where your imagination can run free, if i want human looking badguys i only have to look out my window or turn the News on.

but thats just my oppinion.

[rubah]

I rather liked ex-death as a villain. I mean, come on, he's a TREE. what's scarier than trees, honestly?

But all you people that said you preferred human like villains. . .You should have fallen all over Shuyin then.

[Rase]

Human-sized ones with deep character that morph into a giant monster after you beat thier small form. Eg. Zemus/Zeromus from FFIV (except the character part, but no ones perfect).

[turnitup5000db]

I dunno, I guess I always thought that a little dude with the same destructive power as a huge dude was scarier than the huge dude, just because you can pretty safely assume the little dude hasn't reached his full destructive power yet. I guess it just makes it seem like stopping him is a little more imperitive, before he gets even stronger. Though I must admit, baddies like Sin and Zeromus are impressive. Its just that if you look at it and try to predict the possible outcomes, the little dude is very likely to get stronger and whip it up on the whole world, while the big dude is pretty much as much of a juggernaut as hes going to get to be.

On a personal note, I really HATE how every bad guy on the face of the planet has to have a few dozen MILLION forms. Can't we just have a baddie that stays in the same form, but also gets stronger as he goes, you know, sort of like a CHARACTER? A baddie capable of improving almost without limit is scary to me. That means that if you beat him and let him go (probably because you're being distracted by the villiage baka) he's likely to come back a million times stronger and kill you off.

[Gunblades]

how about LOADS of baddys

[Xander]

And I'm quite frustrated that people will only compare guys like Sin to guys like Sephiroth. I fell that I should remind you all that they made 6 of them before they made FF7. Play them sometime.

Since I am the one who compared Sin to Sephiroth I'm guessing you're talking to me. And hey, guess what, I know there are 6 more Final Fantasies! The title of the topic was big bad guys or little badguys, so I took what I thought to be two of the best examples of each, randomly chosen. No I havent played much of the first 6 so I didn't use examples of villains from those. FF includes 1-12, not everyone has to play the first ones, it doesn't mean they aren't aware they exist. And imo, people who act like I-VI are the only FFs worth mentioning, are as bad as people who act like VII-X are.

[Gunblades]

see, i only mention the ones from seven onwards because those are my Fav and i dont like the others as much, but some people think thats a crime, tough luck

[Destai]

agreed.

[Azure Chrysanthemum]

All Final Fantasies have some merits, believe it or not. Feion did state that he's played all but X-2. It's good to play all of the Final Fantasies, not just exclude either the older or the newer ones.

That being said, I like human-sized enemies and large enemies, it depends. For example, in Xenogears when you fight Grahf while you are in your gears and he's pounding the crap out of your gears ON FOOT WITH HIS BARE HANDS is probably one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a video game. I also am not averse to larger enemies, the major thing is that they're well developed.

[Gunblades]

well if someone WANTS to diss the FF's they havent played, thats their choice, they have freewill and should be allowed to use it unless it hurts someone. However i have played the pre-seven FF's that were released on PS1 and im simply not into oldschool graphics where FF is concerned, nor do i personally find their storys as good. But when you mention this alot of people go nuts instead of being glad that theres more FF for them to have.

i feel sometimes people want villians to be TOO deep. there isnt anything deep about being hurt so you want to hurt others back, yet this is a classic background for a villian or even a hero. Keep it clean and sympol, and concentrate on "showing" the character off

[Destai]

Loads of people seem to raise there eyes if someone enjoys a game that "happens" to be 3D. If someone said FFVII is the best game ever! the general opinion is :rolleyes2 , But if someone feels that way about VI its more "yeah VII can suck it". I dont agree with Newer is better but "some" people should wipe away the cobwebs and realize older isnt necessarily better either.