Yeah, my borther said that the art clases he took he did not like either. I never have taken one, I learn all of my stuff from books, so I do not know. The books are fine though. Is any one familiar with Warhammer 40,000? The art for that is amazing, my goal is to be as good as them.

As for Rikku's like of colouring with pencil, I know what you mean, there has to be a way to get a good a colour result off the computer as on. I mean, computers have only really been able to do colour since the 90's, so there had to be another method of colouring before then, but for some reson I cannot find anywhere that tells you, they all say Phototshop. It became so much of a hassle trying to find an alternative, I just decided to try photoshop. Results are fine, but it does not com naturally to me, I feel much more comfortable with a pen or pencile than a mouse for art.