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Are they actually hitting two birds with one stone or at least on the road to doing so?
http://www.healthtalk.ca/cancer hiv 021405 39933.php
Are they actually hitting two birds with one stone or at least on the road to doing so?
i don't really belive that it's possible.....
plsu how many people would wnat to be injected wiht HIV viruses?
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This sounds ultra dodgy if you think about how many things could potentially go wrong. Then again, if you think about it, someone with terminal cancer doesn't exactly have much to lose...
wow...two illnesses in one!
tested on mice!? how do we know it works on humans?
this is very shifty looking i dont like it but if it works then great
That will be great if it works out.
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Think Mission Impossible 2.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Wow, I hope that works.
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Originally Posted by Blackmageboi
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A virus goes into a cell, reproduces itself until it destroys the cell, and repeats. If this process could happen faster than cancer cells can reproduce then it's sounds completely logical and frankly ingenious. The body has no current way of destroying or counteracting the HIV virus. And genetically altering the virus to attack cancer cells instead of T-cells would make the virus harmless to a person who didn't have cancer, and only helpful to a person who did. Also, injecting people with this could in theory make someone kind of immune to cancer (they wouldn't not get cancer, it's just that the virus would attack the cancer before it had a chance to do anything severe).
However, I think these scientists might be overlooking the fact that the HIV virus mutates inside of the body after being dormant, one of the reasons humans cannot effectively restraint it indefinately. Things could go unforseenly wrong and bad. But it is still good in theory.
If we didn't do animal testing we would all be dead from smallpox by now, just to name one. No, animal testing is not very nice, but an animal's (especially a mouse's) metabolism and internal systems repsonses are exponentially faster than ours, and testing that would take decades to do on humans can be done on mice in a matter of months, maybe a few years.Originally Posted by Rye
Most mammals have the same basic internal workings, especially on a cellular level. So testing something on mice gives you a basic understanding of what would happen to a human. It still needs to be testing on a human, but if it works on mice the likelihood of it being successful in humans is about 98%.Originally Posted by Blackmageboi
Last edited by SeeDRankLou; 02-14-2005 at 08:27 PM.
Holy smokes, that's insane! I sure hope they're successful with this.Originally Posted by Destai
SDRL raised the point I was going to mention. I'd like to know precisely how this particular strand of HIV has been made harmless, as the article states, and what garuntee they have that it'll stay that way.
With something like this, they'll need to run hundreds of thousands of carefully documented trials and have a success rate of close to 99.9900% in every case tried.
mice and rats are very cute, but I'd much rather experiment on hundreds of thousands of mice and rats than hundreds of thousands of human cancer patients.
Makoto, Honesty.
True, but our bodies are different and some things that are beneficial for humans kill animals and visa versa, so I dislike it. I mean, for AIDs research, I guess it's kinda necessary, but for smaller stuff, it's horrible.
AIDS research isn't a whole lot bigger than Cancer research, you know.
Makoto, Honesty.
AIDs and Cancer and very bad things like that. Testing a flu shot or testing cosmetics on an animal is just horrible. Minor stuff can be tested on humans who are so desperate for cash that they volunteer themselves, and believe me, there are a lot of those.
i wonder though, could u still pass it sexually?
Because then noone will pay for the shot, think P2P file-sharing only alittle more fun. They'll go out of business.
On topic its really a good idea, these people are pure genius.