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    Quote Originally Posted by DJZen
    I actually have something to add to that. In the Zelda series you have direct control over your character, while RPGs have a more command driven system. That's why Kingdom Hearts is more of an Action RPG than Zelda, because you actually use a menu to control your own actions. In Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior, you select actions from a menu. In Diablo, you issue commands by clicking the mouse. Fallout gives you a sort of combination of the two. In Zelda, you just press A to slash. It's always been considered an adventure game. Zelda II had more RPG elements; while in the overworld you would encounter monsters and then enter a "fight", you got experience from fighting that led to level ups which could increase your attributes, and magic was actually used via a menu. However, dungeons were done in the style of a side-scroller, and jumping around and using various moves (upper thrust, downward thrust, etc.) were a big part of winning fights. You really couldn't call it an RPG in the purest sense of the word.
    Ah, that's a good point, and a good way at looking at it. I actually have a friend who tries to define "Action/RPGs" and "Adventure/RPGs" as being two different subgenres, though those two names aren't good descriptions of what he uses to define each subgenre. Zelda isn't any different from most other adventure games, aside from the fact that there is actually a system of increasing your stats, something not many pre-modern adventures games featured.

    Ocarina of Time has somehow gradually eased it's way into being considered an RPG over time, and I think it has something to do with exploration, which is a major defining point of the RPG genre, and in the way that the world is designed, and how nearly the entirety of it is open for you to investigate from the very beginning. It just feels like an RPG, but that's not a good argument.

    And about the command argument. In Ocarina of Time's case, to be subjective, the various items/equipment Link has equipped to the C buttons are representative of menu items. Though they don't appear as your stereotypical option menu like that found in Kingdom Hearts, both serve the same purpose (though, admittedly, the menu system in KH is more in depth, and you won't find me disagreeing with the argument that KH is more fitting of being considered an RPG). Furthermore, the various menu items Link can equip to the C buttons range from bows and boomerangs, which can be a form of special attack, to magic crystals (ie. Naryu's Love, Din's Fire, etc.), which are magic attacks in the truest form, being that they reduce MP (in the form of the magic meter) when cast/used.

    I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you either way, just adding to the argument. It's all up to individual interpretation, anyway.

    Zelda II had more RPG elements; while in the overworld you would encounter monsters and then enter a "fight", you got experience from fighting that led to level ups which could increase your attributes, and magic was actually used via a menu. However, dungeons were done in the style of a side-scroller, and jumping around and using various moves (upper thrust, downward thrust, etc.) were a big part of winning fights. You really couldn't call it an RPG in the purest sense of the word.
    Oh yeah. Zelda II is sort of the black sheep of the series, but I have fond memories of running back and forth in dungeons while my HP was low, and trying to kill enemies without getting hit so I could get a level up. That, and wandering around the world map, waiting for an enemy to drop an experience boost. Fun times.

    Quote Originally Posted by strawberry
    Actually- RPG's are short for role playing games. Which probably means playing the role of a character in a set story. So, unless you were specifieng on the more FF turn-type RPG's, then Zelda technically is a role-playing game.
    Bah, that argument has been made a million times, and it kind of negates itself, given the loose definition of "role playing" applied to games. The two opposing arguments already made in this thread address this.

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    I'm going to leave Final Fantasy out of this, since it's only top 5 (and these'll probably end up in different orders depending on my mood):

    1. Chrono Trigger
    2. Shadow Hearts
    3. Fire Emblem: Rekka No Ken (the GBA with Eliwood. I believe someone mentioned it earlier in this thread).
    4. Grandia II
    5. Lunar Legend (though from what I know of it, it's nothing compared to Silver Star Story Complete, which sadly, I've never been able to play).

    As far as FF goes, my top 5 would be somewhat like this:

    1. IX
    2. VII
    3. V
    4. VI
    5. IV
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    It's hard, but here I go.

    #1 - Final Fantasy VIII

    #2 - Final Fantasy VII

    #3 - Final Fantasy IX

    #4 - Koudelka

    #5 - Sword of Mana



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    Quote Originally Posted by Heath
    Lunar Legend (though from what I know of it, it's nothing compared to Silver Star Story Complete, which sadly, I've never been able to play).
    Out of curiosity, Is this game very hard? I have intentions of obtaining a copy of Silver Star Story at some point, but I have the boxed version of Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, and it's the most difficult RPG I've ever played.

    That's the reason I ask, and because I hear that the first one isn't that difficult in comparison to Lunar 2, so I'm trying to assess whether the series in general is meant to be challenging, or if it's just Lunar 2 that causes headaches.

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    no order

    fire emblem ( the u.s one)
    ff tactics
    phantom brave
    ff9
    suikoden( all of them)

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    No order, one per series, only on consoles, you know the rules... the only way I can list just 5 -

    Final Fantasy
    Super Mario RPG
    Shining Force 2
    Skies of Arcadia Legends
    Dragon Warrior 3

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    You cant treat all RPGs equally. I have a large dislike of Vagrant Story and a large like of Final Fantasy VII. I like them differently but I dont care

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    Quote Originally Posted by udsuna
    And by a seperate interpretation of that logic: none of those are RPGs because you have no true control over the character. They follow the scripts created and programmed in. A Final Fantasy style game is more like an animated, interactive story than a Role-Playing Game. Can't be role-playing if you don't get to play the Role how you wish.
    Are you insinuating that the Zelda series has character development and storyline? Or branching storylines like a western based RPG? Or both?

    Below are my top five RPGs of all time, and reasons why:

    1. Final Fantasy VII (Mood)
    2. Vagrant Story (Storyline)
    3. Star Ocean: The Second Story (Gameplay)
    4. Breath of Fire II (Mood)
    5. The Secret of Evermore (Mood, Gameplay)

    To hell with Battletoads and Double Dragon.
    THIS is the ultimate team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SePhO_zO
    Out of curiosity, Is this game very hard? I have intentions of obtaining a copy of Silver Star Story at some point, but I have the boxed version of Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete, and it's the most difficult RPG I've ever played.

    That's the reason I ask, and because I hear that the first one isn't that difficult in comparison to Lunar 2, so I'm trying to assess whether the series in general is meant to be challenging, or if it's just Lunar 2 that causes headaches.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heath
    5. Lunar Legend (though from what I know of it, it's nothing compared to Silver Star Story Complete, which sadly, I've never been able to play).
    Lunar Legend was fairly challenging, I suppose. Harder than most FF's, I'd say. Last I asked someone what they thought of both Lunar games, he said they were both "buggeringly hard". I can't really help you more than that, I'm afraid. I'd love to be able to play both of the Lunar games, sadly all I have is the OSTs, which are very impressive, I must say.

    Edit: Sorry, it was badly phrased on my part. I should have said "from what I've heard of it".
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    Whatever is wrong with you people?

    Koudelka is such an obvious choice for a Top-Five RPG Games.



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    Nah, you answered exactly what I was asking. I read that you had not played SSSC; I was asking about Lunar Legend. I only mentioned the former because I was expressing that I wanted to play it just as you did. I suppose my paragraph structure (where I chose to place the sentence) was misleading.

    I've heard that Lunar 2 is considerably harder than the first one (and it is tough), and I wanted to know what you thought of Lunar Legend's difficulty to assess whether the series was designed to be difficult (based on what I know about Lunar 2, and what you told me about Lunar Legends), or rather just Lunar 2.

    Thanks for the info.

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    1) Final Fantasy VII ( I like to be original when I can but can't deny this) Square 1997
    2) Final Fantasy VI Square 1994
    3) Secret of Mana Square 1992
    4) Final Fantasy IX Square 2000
    5) Final Fantasy X Square 2002

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    1.FFVII
    2.FFVIII
    3.FFX
    4. .hack//
    5.FFIX

    I would say Xenogears but I havent played it and I dont consider KH or Zelda to be RPG's.

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    1. Final Fantasy X
    2. Final Fantasy VIII
    3. Final Fantasy IX
    4. Final Fantasy VII
    5. Legend of legaia

    I love RPG's

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    Shadow Hearts (both)
    Suikoden (any)
    Grandia II
    Star Ocean: The Second Story
    Legend of Legaia (both)

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