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    Quote Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
    Actually nintendo.com just has it as an adventure game, all of them as just adventure games, even the one I classify as an RPG...

    Classic NES Series: Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
    Category: Adventure, System: Game Boy Advance, ESRB: E, Release Date Oct 25, 2004
    sorry, but you got some wrong. Zelda II is a Role-Playing Action RPG, according to this:

    http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/nes/data/563487.html

    same goes for Zelda III and Link's Awakening. i would have to say Zelda is a mix of Action RPG and Adventure. there's no denying Zelda's RPG roots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow
    Oh, and Feion... exactly WHY don't your brother play anymore?
    He went onto bigger things, I guess. He got older and I guess older people don't play video games. He only plays the older ones. He likes FF8, which I don't.

    Anyway, it sucks. I really wish I could get engrossed in a game like I used to back in the day... What is the problem, you think? The games, or me?

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    GameFAQs is not official, and they get the genres of lots of games wrong.

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    who can go on and say that Zelda II is not an RPG ? there's several types of RPGs, turn-based , role-playing fantasy , etc. whether GameFAQs got it right or wrong, Zelda falls into one of the RPG categories .

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    Technically, even Half Life is an Role-Playing Game. After all, it is a Game in which you Play a Role (Gordon Freeman).
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    don't start that stupid thing about playing a role, as I said earlier, I did believe Zelda II to be an RPG (but it only said adventure on nintendo.com Yuffie, I was just posting what the site said), but none of the others... sorry.

    AGAIN, the key factor in a real RPG is to be able to take a character and make them your own, IE develop them how you want. Name any known RPG that doesn't do that. You don't develop Link how you want, he develops and you follow it. I'm sorry people, don't get me wrong Zelda games are way up there as my favorite games, but they are not RPGs. I have given my reasons, what are yours?

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    So by your definition of an RPG, Jackel. What would you class Star Ocean 3 as?

    You can't really choose what each character does. They just gain new move's as they level up. Sure you can give them basic spell's in attack and defence but you can't customize someone into a Blackmage for example.

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    whoa pepole are like backing me up *is suprised* this can be good.... ahh but im sick of arguing so whatever..

    Anyway, it sucks. I really wish I could get engrossed in a game like I used to back in the day... What is the problem, you think? The games, or me? by the lovely feioin

    you know what? im going through the saaaaame thing...you know what you should do? play some old school classics....reclaim the memories you had of when you USE to have a good time...the spark will return
    give it time

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
    AGAIN, the key factor in a real RPG is to be able to take a character and make them your own, IE develop them how you want.
    A large number of Final Fantasy games come to mind. In fact, I'd argue that most Final Fantasy games aren't even RPGs at all.
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    By today's standards FF games are not RPGs. They are all extremely linear and you are just spoon fed a plot (if there even is one). But 10 years ago they defined the term RPG.

    As far as having to be intellectual to play the earlier games... that is just bunk. They consist of nothing more than mindless leveling up and buying equipment. The only feat of mental ability is going through the monotonous routine of every battle. There is nothing difficult about this. Or maybe I am just more methodical in the way I play and don't run into dungeons that I know are too difficult for my characters at their current level. Not that there is anything wrong with that type of game. It fits nicely on my flash drive and helps those boring study halls fly by.

    Since people feel the need to profess the games they played like it validates their opinions. I have played/beaten FF I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, X, and FFT.

    And now for something completely different.

    I don't know why people hate FFX so much. I loved the turn based system because more often then not I have to leave the game for one reason or another be it the bathroom or I've been playing for 7 hours strait and should go out side while the sun is still visible. Somehow people thought just because it is the tenth one it will magically match up the FF7 which the mainstream has held up on a pedestal as a golden standard for all RPGs. The music was damn good. Nothing great but some of the songs stuck with me. The story was refreshingly different from all the others. I was so sick of the damn "flow of magic" just going by a different name every time. And the cinematics were done up all perty like.

    You have to look at each game individually and appreciate what it has to offer. If you just want a FFVII repackaged then take a sharpie and write whatever Roman numeral you want on the CD case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocFrance
    A large number of Final Fantasy games come to mind. In fact, I'd argue that most Final Fantasy games aren't even RPGs at all.
    do you honestly want me to list them all and how you create and develop your characters? I don't mean story wise, I mean for what you control, which would be battle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
    do you honestly want me to list them all and how you create and develop your characters? I don't mean story wise, I mean for what you control, which would be battle...

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    That's called stat-building. Not role-playing. Final Fantasy games don't allow me to control my character's personality. That's why they're not role-playing games.
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    There's a thread about the definition of an RPG in General Gaming Discussion now. Let's get back on the topic of Square here.

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    alot of u i disagree with, i think alot of people are stuck in the past and they need to move on.. u expect another 7 or 8... but they were made, you want to play something that good again, play them again then, dont sit around and expect them to make something just for u. I think x2 was great, and i love the direction SE is taking.

    They are in a rough period, give them a few years and theyll be just as good as ever..

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