Muscle Heads! (election candidates)

[Chibi Youkai]

No, just saying that people can get off our backs for being slow. It gets kinda annoying, especailly when you have a computer that likes to crash in the middle of something, and you loose all of your saved work.

[Giga Guess]

I was just kidding....

[Election Booth]

Sorry, had a bout of sickness and had to sleep it off. I've got a few I can post now. First up is Final Fantasy IX. This task is another trivia based question, although there are a few correct answers depending on how you interpret my question, as you shall see. Plus, this forum features a rare matchup of party leaders, boris no no and Genius Lynx. They are probably the least well known of the leaders, but both have a lot to offer the world of EoFF.

Answer both of the following:
a) What is the only tetra master card that can only be obtained at one point in the game at once specific place? Where do you get this card?
b) Who do you meet living in Madain Sari on disc 4?

Phil (representing the BAotW party):
a) Pretty sure that'd be the Namingway card found in Kuja's room in the desert palace.

b) Not too sure- I know the mogs live there. I never actually went there when I played through disc 4. If this is a typo and you meant disk 3, then its oviously everybodys FAVORITE little snot, Eiko Carol.

Meghan (representing the #eoff party):
a) What is the only tetra master card that can only be obtained at one point in the game at once specific place? Where do you get this card?
There's like, 3 cards really hard to get, ya? But I think the rarest is the Fenrir Card. That you can only get by challenging Oliver while in Lindblum, in disc 3.

b) Who do you meet living in Madain Sari on disc 4?
Um... that would be Lani.

boris no no (representing the Fluffy Pink party):
a) What is the only tetra master card that can only be obtained at one point in the game at once specific place? Where do you get this card?

The Namingway card. You find it in the desert palace in that room where kuja talks to you! I wish I had one of those teleport thingys…I love the sound they make! Whoooooooosh! you can only get it after you’ve come back from oielvert and given kuja the gulug stone and after eiko has been kidnapped by zorn and thorn. Its by this purple flower thing…is it a flower?? Anyway. Its near the front in the middle!!
I’m so glad I made notes on this bit!

b) Who do you meet living in Madain Sari on disc 4?

Lani! When you go into eikos kitchen and down to where she keeps her earrings all the mogs are gathered there. You see Lani for a brief moment before she jumps away!

Genius Lynx (representing the Unne Avatar party):
a) Isn't it Bahamut, and you get him from Eidolon Master Leyra at the Card Stadium in Treno?
b) Lani? I forget.

Leene (representing the Ace party):
a)I think you are reffering to the Mog card which you win only from Rare phantom at Memoria.
b)Lani

[Rye]

for mentioning how annoying Eiko is, Phil.

[boris no no]

hurray! thanks for posting that! hope you get better EB!
*hugs*
well done to everyone! i dind't know there were so many rare cards!
*takes more notes*
thanks!

[Psychotic]

for mentioning how annoying Eiko is, Phil.

I'll second that.

Get well soon EB!

And haha,

Plus, this forum features a rare matchup of party leaders, boris no no and Genius Lynx. They are probably the least well known of the leaders, but both have a lot to offer the world of EoFF.

Last year I was the least well known leader (vs BoB, Mik, Bleys, HOOTERS and Del Murder) It was a great advantage if you ask me...and now I have lost it. Oh well

[Election Booth]

Let's do another! Got a lot of forums to go through. Next up is Final Fantasy XI. This question hits directly at the heart of EoFF, the advertising bar in the banner!

Discuss your feelings on people who buy and sell FF11 gil online.

Hardwood Hank (representing the BAotW party):
Gil sellers, eh? Well, seeing as how I've QUIT PLAYING FFXI, (Yes, I'm insane) I kind of admire them. It's not many people who can make a living out of people's nerdiness, with the exception of square-enix, of course. I can't believe more people haven't tried to live more of nerdiness, after all it's a growing resource, or something.

ANYWAY! If I ever returned to ffxi, I guess I wouldn't like them much, seeing as how I'm a level 8 whm and that THEY KILL ALL THE HORNETS. Oh, and I never will get level 9, and that's because MISFIT WON'T PL ME. And everytime she says she will PL me, she decides to abandon me instead, or stand next to me and cheer the enemy on UNTIL I DIE.

Ok, and then I had to express my feelings about people who BUY the gil. Hmm, ok. MISFIT BUYS GIL. I hate her. That's not related to the gil issue, of course, but more other stuff like that she smells like fish.

The moral of this story is: gil sellers are ok as long as I don't play ffxi, and misfit sucks.

:scary::scary::scary::scary::scary:

Bert (representing the #eoff party):
I think that people who buy/sell gil online are just ruining the game expreience for themselves and everyone else. When a level 1 character can just go out and buy 500,000 gil it makes the game very easy. But, it can also help a new player be able get get better equipment so they havea better chance of sticking to the game since they've spent more money on it and they don't have to worry about a little rabit killing them because they have crap armor on.

Mikztsu (representing the Fabio party):
I'm too busy playing FFXI to answer this. Also, minä rakestan cucumbers!

Citizen Bleys (representing the Unne Avatar party):
I guess I should answer this now so I can get back to reading Shadows of Doom -- it's the feel-good book of the year!

What IGE refers to as the "secondary market" is something a book could be written on. Fortunately for those of you who have to read this, I'm a lazy, lazy man, so I'll make it short.

There's really not much I could say that I haven't already. Although it's not technically illegal (because there is no such thing as law enforcement in Hong Kong), it remains morally reprehensible, as all of the gil on all of the servers is the intellectual property of Square-Enix. What it boils down to is that trading in gil is trading the property of someone else not only without their permission, but after it has been expressly forbidden by said party. That aside, most people don't care, and I can live with that. Hell, I steal MP3s myself. I've even bought gil before, but it's not something I'm proud of, and I don't try to justify it--nor do I plan to repeat the offense, unlike the case with MP3s. In both the cases of stealing music and buying gil, it is wrong, plain and simple. Even taking the principle aside, look at the effect the buying and selling of gil has on the game: You have gilsellers camping rare NMs 24/7, making it impossible for legitimate players to claim them, and thereby interrupting the legitimate players' enjoyment of the game--and it's a self-perpetuating cycle. Gilsellers camp the mobs with lucrative drops 24/7, meaning actual players can't use those same NMs to get gil for themselves. However, with food and crafting, leave alone armor, every player has a need for an ingame income. If all other sources of such income are removed, the legitimate player has no recourse save to purchase gil online, thereby feeding the very gilsellers who are preventing them from gaining gil in a legitimate manner. Even beyond the simple matter of monopolizing NMs, there is the MPK; Should a party try to level in an area where lucrative NMs spawn (Kuftal Tunnel and Boyahda Tree both have such NMs, and they are pretty much the only effective places to level within the 50-60 level range), gilsellers will train aggressive monsters onto that party in order to kill them off so that they can't claim the NM from gilsellers. These gilsellers never seem to care whether a party is in an area to compete with them or just level, they just kill everyone, causing people to lose massive amounts of experience which it takes a long time to recover--even assuming the same gilseller doesn't MPK them as soon as they start trying to level again. The majority of gilsellers also add insult to injury by being the rudest sons-of-whores in the game. Gilsellers are the reason that I know what "Cao ni ma" means.

Ultimately, whether it's buying or selling gil, one who participates in the secondary market in any way, shape, or form, is contributing to the ruin of the game for legitimate players, which is why so many have left for WoW even though it is a vastly inferior game.

demonsdragon (representing the Ace party):
The feelings I have on people who sell gil for FFXI online is that it's like a scam. I'm not even sure if the people who sell gill online actually play FFXI.

I've met some people who have bought character's and tons of gil because they didn't want to work for it. It's like a new form of cheating. I don't think it's fair to the people around them. I can honestly say if I had bought something like that from online I'd feel a lot of guilt within me.

Now on the other hand people who have bought gil online they can get started really quickly. They could be an elemenetal staff, or get all of their equipment for that level.

They could give some of their gil to a n00b if they are kind at heart but let's not push it. If they are a mage they could buy all of their spells if they bought a lot of gil online.

But really buying gil online is a bad thing. I don't know how it got started but I don't think it's a good thing. Buying gil online is like their own little GAMESHARK or ACTION REPLAY.

[Rye]

Go Hank! Your moral of the story was cool.

[Psychotic]

Everybody hates Misfit.

[Del Murder]

I've been keeping score and here's how I have it through 11:

Ace Party - 3
#eoff Party - 2
Fluffy Pink Party - 2
Unne Avatar Party - 2
BAotW - 1
Elitist Party - 1

[boris no no]

noone from pink....
i thouht that thet were all cool!
i'd vote you all!
*hugs*

[Rye]

I've been keeping score and here's how I have it through 11:

Ace Party - 3
#eoff Party - 2
Fluffy Pink Party - 2
Unne Avatar Party - 2
BAotW - 1
Elitist Party - 1

Is that your votes so far?

[Del Murder]

Well, there hasn't been any voting yet, but yes.

[Agent Proto]

Score

[Leeza]

Good answer... Mik.