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    John Cleese is a very funny man.

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    John Cleese is not prone to political humor, is he? Anyway, since the letter has been edited to make a jab at Bush (this has been around since the 2000 election - it was poking fun at the recount debacle, not Bush in general) I would not be surprised if John Cleese's name was appended to it to get more attention.

    The odd juxtaposition of the "nuclear" jab at Bush at the end ruins it, too. It was 16: JFK thing
    THEN the part about taxes - that was the END. Notice that the taxes thing has nothing to do with JFK? Yeah.
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    We don't all NEED guns, but the presence of legal firearms actually reduces the occurence of armed robbery and similar violent crime, as stated by the very article you presented, and confirmed in thousands of such studies. You don't rob a store if the owner has a sawed-off shotgun under the counter. Not a good plan at all.
    And I repeat myself: murder rates per total population are virtually identical across the entire first-world-nations. Every one of them looses around 1 to 1.5 percent of the population to one method or another of homicide. Naturally, this isn't including war-time actions, suicides, or accidents.

    The idea of us owning firearms is two-fold.
    1: So we can protect ourselves, independant of law enforcement or other governmental powers. So that we don't become too reliant on a government that, like all governments, is fallable.
    2: To make sure that we can protect ourselves FROM the government, should the need arise. Can't say it has arisen, but if only the armed forces owned weaponry, it could.
    Both reasons were Thomas Jefferson's, and the man knew what he was doing.
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    YES! JOHN CLEESE!
    Cheer! Cheer!
    Hail to the Monty Python`s Flying Circus! HAIL!
    His genius is unmatched!

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    Actually the constitution doesn't even really say that. It is just a gross misinterrertation. Its really meant for a militia so they have power to rise up against a corrupt government.

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    I didn't quote the constitution. I quoted Mr. Thomas Jefferson. Yeah, he wrote other things, too... they're really quite good. He's an underated philosopher.
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    I found this rather amusing. John Cleese is awesome, afterall, he is the voice of God in Spamalot. If he's the voice of God, what he says must be law. Even if there's a good chance he never said it.

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    I love John Cleese, hes one of my favorite actors. I am a devout Monty Python fanboy. Frankly despite being born in and currently living in America, I agree whole heartedly. A certain president has cast Americans in such bad light. We aren't all ignorant.
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    On the gun issue though, if we were to ban guns now, it'd be disastrous as the only ones who would listen to the ban would be the law abiding citizens, so all the criminals'd still have their guns, and they'd be given much more power. Right now we CAN'T outlaw guns.

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    John Cleese is funny, but he can go screw a goat for all I care. Gun control is bunk, as stated before, it only harms the law-abiding citizens. Bush is a good leader that does what is right whether or not it is popular. He also sees things through to the end, a trait not very common in world politics.

    And I will pronounce "nucular" however the dang well I want to pronounce it. And screw all your extra u's!!! THIS IS AMERICA, WE DO WHAT WE WANT!

    (And what does everyone have against us in Utah? Note to those that noticed: My location is Colorado, but I am from Utah, and I think we have more guns than the whole Middle East, and they're here to stay.)

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    Bush is a good leader that does what is right whether or not it is popular. He also sees things through to the end, a trait not very common in world politics.
    That's open to so much debate but I'll not address it here.

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    It's not wise to replace what is right, with what is right in one person's opinion.

    Take care all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain
    It's not wise to replace what is right, with what is right in one person's opinion.

    Take care all.
    Alright, he does what he sees as right. And because he believes it to be right, he does it no matter how unpopular it is.

    Obviously this could be taken like "Well Hitler believed he was right, does that mean he was just doing what he thought was right? So he's really a good guy?" ... No.

    And ya, I'm done debating politics, it bugs me to no end sometimes and I think it's really frivolous in such places as this.

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    I'm in no position to give judgment on anyone's political views. I just thought I'd point out that opinion isn't fact, no matter who you are, be you President or begger.

    Many people side with Cleese's argument because though it's masked in comedy, the undertones are obvious and many people do agree with those undertones.

    Take care all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squinn
    i have one questin for you americans, why do you all need to have guns? just because its in the constitution doesnt mean you need to own one

    Because they want them. why do you need a computer? You don't, you simply want to own one. Why can't Americans do what they want, just like the rest of the world?

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