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Frankly, it's thinking like this that halts progress, especially when it comes to gay marriage in my opinion.
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Frankly, it's thinking like this that halts progress, especially when it comes to gay marriage in my opinion.
Take care all.
. . . you know, he may not agree with it and he may believe they will burn forever in the pits of hell or whatever but how is it a threat? I swear, I dislike the Pope more and more for some reason.Homosexual marriages are part of "a new ideology of evil" that is insidiously threatening society.
The picture of him with the dove reminded me of this . . .
I happen to believe staring at doves like they are a form of food is a threat to society so we much legally exterminate him. -.-
This just upsets me. The pope deserves a good swift kick to the head. Tolerance is a good thing.
If there's one topic I've never been able to discuss with my Catholic friends it's homosexuality. Most all of them just hide behind the bible. Now they can just hide behind the Pope. Absolutely ridiculous.
I think that sums things up nicely. Human Rights - I don't think those can go "against" man, by definition. Reading these kinds of ideas always saddens me, but it seems much worse when it comes from someone who has influence over millions of people around the world.Originally Posted by The Pope
Are human rights not more important than a subjective definition of family? I certainly think so.
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How the hell is being gay evil? Because it states it in a man-written book. That book is no more trustworthy than my fist. I'm not part of an idealogy of evil because I'm gay, no, I'm part of an idealogy because i want to b-slap all the "morally right" religious zealouts in the world.
"Frankly, it's thinking like this that halts progress, especially when it comes to gay marriage in my opinion."
mmmm.... Who said that social progressivism was a good thing?
Guy Eaton discussed the degradation of morals in favour of personal liberties. With the kind of progressive thinking that liberals endorse it won't be long before all types of insidious, hedonisms are decriminalized and then eventually legalized.
"Are human rights not more important than a subjective definition of family? I certainly think so."
No, the family is the core of civilization. Besides this, Human rights can only be maintained by the state. Family, on the other hand, is maintained by active individuals. Divorce - a growing problem - has produced a whimsical generation of polygamy: in which young women never seem to find 'Mr. Right' and young men take advantage of this ... except in extreme circumstances where the dignified individual values tradition. But wait! Tradition, in the eyes of progressivisms, is merely a back-ward inhibition towards individual progress.
The issues that the Pope addressed seem abrasive to the modern state high school educated; however, deeper philosophical inquiry reveals his devotion to the protection of morals, the maintenance of loving families and the preservation of our wonderful western tradition.
Besides this ... The Dalai Lama spoke on the evils of anal sex: even between married couples; and, I don't hear anyone in hear complaining about his conservatism. I think much of the dissent against the Pope is based unwittingly on the American Protestant inclination.
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"mmmm.... Who said that social progressivism was a good thing?"
In my opinion, the more liberated we get as a society, the better, because we get closer to who we are and away from the image driven culture that has come to dominate our lives.
"Guy Eaton discussed the degradation of morals in favour of personal liberties. With the kind of progressive thinking that liberals endorse it won't be long before all types of insidious, hedonisms are decriminalized and then eventually legalized."
Such as? Morals, as has been debated, is subjective to each person. What one person may find morally right another might find horrid and vice versa. Also, it seems very unfair to bash the views on the left without taking into account the fact that without liberal progression we would not be living the lives we live now.
There is this growing demonization of "Liberal" that really blows my mind as it's made to seem that conservatism is right and anything aside from that is just dead wrong when in fact, the truth is somewhere in between.
"Besides this ... The Dalai Lama spoke on the evils of anal sex: even between married couples; and, I don't hear anyone in hear complaining about his conservatism. I think much of the dissent against the Pope is based unwittingly on the American Protestant inclination. "
I don't think the Dalai Lama considers his views liberal or conservative, if I've read his work correctly.
I suppose my biggest qualm is the fact that the language is so harsh, saying someone is evil or that what someone represents is evil does not seem like something anyone should say about another, especially when you are representing a great many people's beliefs and have no actual proof. On top of that, some of whom you may be completely "throwing under the bus" so to speak. There ARE Gay Catholics, and it seems beyond me that their beliefs are invalid because of their way of life. If God exists, I don't think he'd really care about whether you sleep with a man or a woman so long as you lead a good life, and calling someone "Evil" seems, for lack of a better word, very much against what religion should represent: bringing people together and uplifting them.
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Last edited by The Captain; 02-23-2005 at 05:36 AM.
I wouldn't get your panties in a twist over what some decrepit, old Pole said, if I were you. He'll be dead soon anyway.
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Word on the grapevine is his successor may be a very hardline Conservative. We shall see.
I suppose, what bothers me is that his words will only add fuel to the fire of people who bash and hate homosexuals when in fact, I think he and those of his ilk should be trying to put fires out, not start them up all over again.
Take care all.
The Pope is irrelevant, or should be irrelevant.
Agreed.
Times like this I'm glad I'm a Catholic who marches to his own drum, instead of whatever the hell the pope is beating.
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Well, the Pope is a strict Catholic, so he would say that, wouldn't he?
I agree with The Captain on everything.
I certainly don't look to the Pope for moral guidance and clarity, but the Pope has had a pretty decent track record of being levelheaded and reasonable. He was able to disapprove of the "Pokemon is evil" craze, the Iraq war, and opposition to evolution; right or wrong is irrelevant, he always spoke out against them with calm nicety and non-virulence. A "fire and brimstone" Pope is a dissapointing turn for the worse.
Actually, the Pope has the power to declare being gay not a sin and it would be so. THe sooner he dies the better because then we might get a pope who would make progress and do things instead of cover ups.
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