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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
    Alright, this whole thing with generalizing everyone on staff so that if one person does one thing then all staff must do it always is starting to get to me. I'm taking a break.
    That's the pitfall of the whole "not naming names" bit. I'm not saying anything with the intention of singling one person out and making them feel bad, which is exactly what'll happen if I even once name a name, regardless of whether or not everyone knows who I'm talking about. And obviously, not everyone does, since Unne's name came up. I like the way Unne deals with this. He and I will never see eye to eye on swearing, but back when we were both on staff together, the issue never became significant. Why? Because we both respected not only the staff and the rules, but the members (or at least those worthy of respect). I tone down the swearing while I'm here -- regardless of whether or not my word of choice is in the censor -- and he doesn't go all nazified and edit every single post and dress people down for doing something that's not against the rules. He doesn't like swearing, to be sure, but he doesn't let that cripple the way he does his job. Sure, I wish that I could drop the F-bomb here as often as I do in my LJ and on Primeaux, but I don't let that affect the way I post, and when I was on the staff, I enforced that rule, no matter how much I hated it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loony BoB
    We'll definitely look into that first bit.
    Fact is "Looking into something," or "discussing it in staff" usually means a thread is made, a few people post in it, and everybody "agrees to disagree" and precisely squat ever changes. Only here in Feedback does an issue ever get any actual air, and then usually it's regular members raising an issue and staff dismissing it and saying "Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about it," or "We already have talked about it," leaving out the fact that the discussion in staff was utterly effectless, and everybody who even cares a little is as thoroughly ignored as people who use the warn feature.

    Quote Originally Posted by RSL
    I didn't realize that you had a warned post get ignored, Bleys. Do you have an approximate date that this post occured? My whole email inbox is basically reported posts (I never delete them even though I don't look at them.)
    I can't give you an exact date, but it was pretty recent. Someone (Again not naming names, I don't want the contents of my Ignore list to be a matter of public record) made an off-topic post exclusively to flame me. Instead of flaming back, I was a good little boy and followed what was written in the (then) latest announcement and used the warn feature, whereupon I'm sure every staffer who even read the email just said "Oh, pssh, it's just Bleys. *delete*"

    Which brings up another matter: I've noticed that certain members (including Kane, Doom, WesLY, and I'm sure some others that I don't notice as much because they're not such good friends of mine) can't post "hi" without getting shat upon by the staff. I'm sure someone will promptly call it banter, but I of all people know the difference. You want to see an example of bantering with WesLY? http://www.gamers-alliance.org/forums is the place to go. You want to see incessant reaming and insulting of him, the place to go is http://forums.eyesonff.com/forumdisplay.php?f=40.

    Maybe I, too, belong on that list with Kane, Doom, and WesLY, but when it's me, I am much more inclined to give the other poster the benefit of the doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Unne
    Should we abolish manners?
    Already taken care of.
    Last edited by Citizen Bleys; 03-05-2005 at 03:41 PM. Reason: Because you touch yourself at night

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