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    FFVIII...

    Gameplay? Decent.
    Graphics? Good.
    Music? Awesome.
    Story? Downright awful.

    No real villain. No secondary character development. Cheesy lovestory. Useless whore as a love interest.

    C'mon, Squall wasn't even in love with Rinoa. Who in their right mind would be? We all know that he really wanted to get some "gunblade practice" in with Seifer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnGod Squall
    Squall is my favorite FF character...
    he's my fav. too that's why i'm rinoa besides other reasons....!!! but it is a really good game it was the first one i bought!!!!!

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    haha, well im glad at least some people agree with me, i love all the games, they all have their ups and downs(very low amount of downs in my mind) this debate will never end... everyone telling their side of whats wrong with it, and others saying how awesome it is.. but one thing im going to say is the people who dont like it or 9 or 10 saying the whole series is going to sh** when the games sell and they will continue to sell because of people like me who will continue to buy them ( and most other Square products) when they are released

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    no game is perfect , but FF8's one of those near-perfect one i've played...

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    I Liked the story! I thought Squall's story was very beleiveable. A few people (Here and Elsewhere) That he changed too much. I don't think he did. I think he was showing signs of that side all the way threw. To all thoes who think Squall Had a bad story please play the game with you're Eyes open!

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    I think the game is horribly, horribly overrated by some people. I hated it more than any other game I've ever played. I'm not saying it's the worst--that credit probably goes to Superman 64--but it's my least favorite. But then, FFIX is my favorite game in the series (I'm not going to try and argue that it's the BEST one) and a lot of people disliked it, so, oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER
    I Liked the story! I thought Squall's story was very beleiveable. A few people (Here and Elsewhere) That he changed too much. I don't think he did. I think he was showing signs of that side all the way threw. To all thoes who think Squall Had a bad story please play the game with you're Eyes open!
    He did change too much. He did a complete 180 for no real reason. And guess what? I did have my eyes open! Both times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnGod Squall
    another thing ive noticed, is it seems to me that a lot of the ones who really dont like it are the ones who picked up on the FF series around IX or X.. its hard to play a modern game and go back to one which in every way is obselete.. ive tried getting a few of my friends into VII and VIII but they talk crap on it before they start because of they "blocky" graphics... they just cant get over that to get into them.. but right now he got X and loves it because it has better graphics and such...

    ive been playing FF since the US release of FFII in 1991 so when i look back at VII and VIII graphics i still see them as amazing, sure 9 and 10 have sharper graphics and a bit more developed features, but that doesnt remove any of the greatness of VIII or VII does it?
    I can see why alot of ppl are like this, especially fanboys. (not trying to diss your mates here or anything) But all they are care about is the fighting and the graphics. They dont much care about the actual STORY, which is what FF is all about. The friends you've tried to get to play the earlier ones obviously dont play games for the value of the storyline and getting to know the characters. They just care about the adrenline fights and supershinyprettygreat graphics. Well, graphics a good game do not make, as Yoda would say. Its their loss.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    He did change too much. He did a complete 180 for no real reason.
    Allthough I am the first person to admit that I really liked FF8, (its probably in my top 3 fave FF's) I have to agree with this. I generally liked the Squall/Rinoa thing but I have to say it was so.................wtf??!! at first. I mean, he completely ignored her, really badly. And that bit when he saved after the Edea parade? from those 2 statues-come-to-life? She was on her damn knee's next to him and he was just shaking her off! Like she was worth nothing! And then he's all "Rinoa! I cant live without you .etc Say my name!!!" It was too much of a 180 for me...but like I said before, I do actually like them together. It just should have been developed way better then it was.
    I know the whole thing of 'You dont know what you've got till its gone' applys to Squall when Rinoa is in a coma....but its taking it abit far. It should have been showed earlier that he really had feelings for her. Because you can argue alot that he was such a loner he didnt know how to deal with his feelings let alone showing her them, but theres a limit to how far that arguement can go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amratis
    I can see why alot of ppl are like this, especially fanboys. (not trying to diss your mates here or anything) But all they are care about is the fighting and the graphics. They dont much care about the actual STORY, which is what FF is all about.
    That's what I hated more than anything about the game, actually, and I've played V, VI, VII, IX, X, X-2, and Tactics Advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azar
    That's what I hated more than anything about the game, actually, and I've played V, VI, VII, IX, X, X-2, and Tactics Advance.
    I was kind of talking about FF's in general and not just VIII, but anywho.
    VIII doesnt have the best FF story in my opinion, but I really liked it most of the time, I love playing through it and getting swept away by it again. The whole....'orphanage' scene still makes me shudder though.

    edit - I havent played as many as you, but I've played VI,VII,VII,IX,X and X-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    He did change too much. He did a complete 180 for no real reason. And guess what? I did have my eyes open! Both times!
    In what way did he change to much? He was ALWAYS like that he just wasn't open at first. That's the only way he changed - That he was eventualy able to open out. It's very belivable - I used to be like that.

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    He wasnt always like that. His inner monologue and actions protrayed one type of person, and then he abruptly changes into another. He treats Rinoa like dirt, and then without warning is obsessed with her. Those changes could be feasible if given time, but they were not. People do not change so abruptly for no reason at all. And no, he didnt have reasons. His monologue tells us so.

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    Squall went through some very traumatic moments as a little kid, abandoment on several occassions, loneliness, exclusion. This can mess with a person's head, make them grow up with severe personality and social skill problems, which Squall has several of. Basically, Squall dealt with all of this by putting up a wall when he was really young, and that wall stayed so ever-present that it became who he was, even to himself. Sometimes when a lie is portrayed as truth for so long it becomes truth. Rinoa circumvented that wall, and made Squall feel something other than pain, especially when she went into her coma. And this event broke through Squall's wall, made him see that all the problems of his life--his bad personality, his unwillingness to speak, his apathy, his bad social skills, his inability to like anyone on any level--were all really his doing. She made him look at himself, something he had probably never done because he didn't care. While Squall's monologue during his moment of revelation could have been MUCH better worded, that is what happened. The writer's of this game left a lot of Squall's character to circumstance and implication, which is sometimes a bad thing.

    I find FFVIII to be a bit underrated, but FFVIII is an aquired taste, some people just aren't going to like or understand it, and that's just the way it is.

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    I was wondering when you would get here xP Anyway, SRL knows how I feel about that, I really dont agree with his explination and I never will. VIII's character development was horrid, even with the two characters they did focus on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    I was wondering when you would get here xP .
    Yeah, I thought I'd chime in for sport.

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