underrated?

[Angel Of Apocolypse]

I'm a people and I like it...

[amratis]

I was playing the game as a typed the above...

That isnt answering my question.

[MJN SEIFER]

That isnt answering my question.

Ok then YES my opinions are still the same.

[amratis]

Ok then YES my opinions are still the same.

So, basically you're saying Yes, you do think he came across as comforting in that scene then? Ok

[Shrub]

my brother hated all the ff games cause of turn based fighting

[rubah]

What turn based fighting?

[Rinoa Heartilly]

Personally I think some people started the game rather biased
Because

1) the gaming magazines came down on it rather hard

Many people say it was hyped, but this was a time that I didn't have internet yet and thus I bought every freaking gaming magazine I could get my hands on (this includes english, french, german etc...) and they all dissed the game rather harshly

2) It wasn't ff7

We've all been there, you meet these characters, the great plot and you want to know what happens next...but those days, ff's didn't get sequels so boo on the next bunch for not being your friends from the last adventure
Boo on the new system because it isn't what you are used to
(Know what, I love the junctioning system, I used to *hate* the mp system with a vengeance after getting used to junctioning...not anymore now, I got used to the mp system again and I love it to bits, however I still prefer the junctioning system for its freedom)

3)No silver spoon

Rather harsh title, for which I apologize but it's the best I could come up with right now. The junctioning system was complex. Don't come running now that I'm telling that it was too complex for certain people or something. It wasn't. It was just complex.
Hell, first 3~4 times I couldn't leave garden without dying; I didn't get it. I somehow made it till the end without junctioning magic, I just got the GF part & the facts you had to appoint 'draw', 'GF' before you could do anything else than attack. So meh to the ff8 is for intelligent people only myth :rolleyes2 imho we can toss that one out of the window ^^ (there is an ff7 version of this myth to, I feel the same about that one: out the window I say ^^)
But along the way I slowly had begun to understand what we were supposed to do with the system and playing through the game a second time, I got it ^^ and I loved it.
The storyline wasn't handed to you on a silver platter either. In ff7 you could walk through the moving story on a paved path. Ff8 gave you a lot of exploring to do, if you went out of your way to adventure you could find out a lot more about your characters. Checking your computer in garden and walking around was a great way to really *get* the story and if you've done that it would surprise me that you should still think the story just focused about Squall and Rinoa. It did, like everything always focus around main characters, but the others were also very well develloped ^^ You just had to go out of your way a little, still I can understand no one would do that for a game they don't like. Which brings me to the next little item: the slow slow slow start of ff8. Many people I know were turned off by this. Things only really start happening at the (SPOILER)parade and then you're usually about 17 hours in the game (raise your hand if you could find that freaking (SPOILER)tomb right away, I sure couldn't.) Now it's considered a ff trademark to jump right into the acting in the beginning of the game: 5 min in the game you're already battling away right? Not so with ff8. I like the calm, it really fits with the story and sets the mood right imho. It gives you the chance (if you take it and don't stubbornly and mindlessly play on like an addicted fool like yours truly) to get to grips with the battle system. And each replay I really appreciate the slow start because it fits so well with the story, the calm before the storm, 'daily life' before the whirl of events that is to follow. But I can understand that some people were turned off by this.

4) The pc conversion

...was crappy...They did their best for the pc conversion of ff7, better graphics and polished up the music. They didn't do that for ff8 and that was a *big* turnoff after ff7's conversion for some people.



I like both ff7 and ff8. To bits even. But if I have to pick favourites: it would be final fantasy 8. Because while it might start off slow, it does pick up speed and keeps it. Final Fantasy 7 started of brilliantly and maybe even better than ff8 but I lost my drive around the half of the second disc (SPOILER)where it became a matter of 'keep chasing Sephiroth untill the end", yes the lucrecia bit and such were still very very good but after that it was just a great game imho, rather than the brilliance it showed in its first half

Just two things I would like to touch on:

(SPOILER)Ultimecia:

Imho there was no *switch* in baddies, you only see her in her true form. So while I can understand it, I can't share the same opinion as people who claim that you need to have a clair view of the 'baddy' right from the start. I like story twists like that.

Rinoa:

This is the only thing which I consider 'crap'. Why would she be 'slutty'?
I 've explained it more softly in the past, time and time again. If you want to read please look up my older posts, I'm tired of typing the same thing over and over again and wasting server space with the same things. I'll just do a little bit of comparing. Was Rinoa so different from Aeris or Tifa in that light? No. If anything Tifa was 'worse' in the behaviour that people hold against Rinoa. However I don't consider Tifa 'slutty'. I like Tifa's character ^^ (And no I don't think Rinoa is the ff8 version of Tifa, if anyone would be that it'd be Quistis, with Rinoa filling Aeris part. But I see them as different characters who just have certain characteristics in common)

Wow, this became a rather long post ^^ my apologies

[TheAbominatrix]

Rinoa was far more alike to Aerith. Both were very very flirty. Tifa was very very shy with her feelings and never revealed them. Rinoa is very unlike Tifa.

Your reasons are valid, though of course there are many many other reasons, most of which have been stated in this thread. I would like to touch on the FFVII thing though, because I remember people on the internet all thinking FFVIII was a continuation of FFVII, these people of course having never played a Final Fantasy before VII. It was quite annoying, and I'm sure it pissed them off when Cloud didnt return for another game.