Um, sorry, but... What?Originally Posted by Future Esthar
I've been actually trying to make an effort to understand what you mean, or see the validity behind some of your theories, but your response here barely makes sense to me.
If this was already asked in this thread, I'm sorry for repeating it, but, is English your native language?
Now as for what you are saying. They reported that Seifer was executed but he WASN'T executed, nor was he dead. Ever. We see him (SPOILER)fishing in Balamb at the end of the game. And we fight him, at least twice I believe (I know once for sure), after his supposed 'execution'.
And, unless I have mistakened what you meant, I believe the fact that you are trying to contradict my point is fruitless. The lie of Seifer's execution was an INTENTIONAL lie, and part of the plot. It wasn't just a doof on the creator's part, who thought: "Hey, lets execute Seifer near the beginning of the game!", who then made the numerous scenes refering to it, but "accidentally" left them in, even though they ended up deciding that Seifer does not truly get executed.
If Square was in the habit of stating false information in the game that only leaves plot holes, and makes no sense, then maybe some of what you were saying would be possible. Especially considering that if Square puts completely false, plot-hole ridden information in their games, then anything is possible if you say "Well maybe...".
Unfortunately, most arguments against you are backed up by clear facts, and statements from the game. Statements that are 'true' in the world of FFVIII. I don't generally think it is a good idea to assume that half the things the characters are spouting are intentionally false information. Theories need to be backed up with solid, solid facts. Not speculation that makes it seem like one is grasping at straws.
Sorry if I seem offensive, I really don't mean to be, but I think that it might be a good idea look at the solid facts more closely, and not assume that it's all false in order to back up these theories.
This is a video game, it is NOT full of conspiracy theories that are DEEPLY and impossibly hidden in the game, and are only revealed when we ignore all facts and logic that is presented within the game. The colour check system before you enter Esthar is simply to do just that, CHECK THE COLOURS that the holographic projection is able to produce, and is producing. It doesn't really mean anything. Just like how going through the Balamb Garden Desk panel doesn't mean a whole lot (other then to get your first GF's). It's just interactive electronics added to help a player understand some of the nuances in the FFVIII world. (ie Some of the history behind Garden, how it functions, its rules, or how that holographic system works. That's all these interactions are for.)
As for telling someone to "not bother" if they don't like your theories, I think that is a bit much. He has ever right to question and debate the legitimacy of your theories as you have to post them. There's a difference between "not liking something", and simply providing a rebuttal to seemingly false evidence. Though in this case, I think they may be one and the same.
I may like the idea if someone told me that a single cure for all diseases has been made, but if this claim is made on nothing but the idea of conspiracy theories and the like, then I am more then likely to counter the person's argument with information that is fact. (That no one and single cure can fix all diseases simply because of their varied nature, classification and types of treatments, etc.)
So, I think you have a right to develop your theories until the moon is blue, but the truly classy thing to do would be to not continue clamouring on about a particular theory if it has, beyond all reasonable doubt, been proven false by another forum member. If you can't accept someone showing you otherwise, then it's the same thing as posting in a thread all by yourself.
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