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    Yeah, there's no way to be sure on EXACTALY what happened until KH2 comes out, but I'm pretty sure on one thing. The BHK is the light side of Sora. Now, I'm not saying that Sora is comepletely dark, he's more "twilight" as was Riku in COM. My piont on this is Sora will never be trully "complete", to say, until him and the BHK merge or something. Here is where Namine come up, due to the fact if anybody could "merge" them...she could. Somehow, though, I get the feeling that Sora and the BHK merging is unlikely. However, this feeling may just be because, truly, we no NOTHING about the BHK. We can guess, but we only know what he looks like, and where he originates for sure. Other than that he's a mystery. No proof on how he ties to Sora, nothing.

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    Wow! Skyblade...i 100% completely agree with your incredible keyblad theory! very impressive...

    Now Destai...mad props...on this whole ordeal towards BHK being connected to sora...i support that theory (perhaps even along with the ansem, DiZ theory) for a theory i made myself...*clears throat*

    In COM it is mentioned by naminee herself (and i believe axel or marluxia..) that she is a shell of kairi (or the other way around..or somthing like that) which leads me to believe that "Destiny Island" may prove to quite a role yet...all of the kids on the island are perhaps connected somone similar to kairi and naminee...such as riku and shell riku...BHK and sora...even tidus! In traverse town we saw a child who looked EXACTLY like him (shuyin? ok just messin..) even though that doesnt connect with the twilight theory....even though kairi's from there..but any hoot...i say this because perhaps the name "Destiny Island" may prove quite significant afterall...key word being "Destiny" as in the kids (well mainly riku, sora, and kairi) all pertain to the destiny of there counter parts which will in the end intertwein with there own storys as well....ah..the power of fate...no..destiny! *shakes fist in the air* or my theory could be a complete sham but eh its somthing to thinka bout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monol
    Wow! Skyblade...i 100% completely agree with your incredible keyblad theory! very impressive...

    Now Destai...mad props...on this whole ordeal towards BHK being connected to sora...i support that theory (perhaps even along with the ansem, DiZ theory) for a theory i made myself...*clears throat*

    In COM it is mentioned by naminee herself (and i believe axel or marluxia..) that she is a shell of kairi (or the other way around..or somthing like that) which leads me to believe that "Destiny Island" may prove to quite a role yet...all of the kids on the island are perhaps connected somone similar to kairi and naminee...such as riku and shell riku...BHK and sora...even tidus! In traverse town we saw a child who looked EXACTLY like him (shuyin? ok just messin..) even though that doesnt connect with the twilight theory....even though kairi's from there..but any hoot...i say this because perhaps the name "Destiny Island" may prove quite significant afterall...key word being "Destiny" as in the kids (well mainly riku, sora, and kairi) all pertain to the destiny of there counter parts which will in the end intertwein with there own storys as well....ah..the power of fate...no..destiny! *shakes fist in the air* or my theory could be a complete sham but eh its somthing to thinka bout
    Thanks for the compliment on my Keyblade theory. A couple points on your own ideas:

    Kairi is from Hallow Bastion, not Twilight Town. Ansem sent her out into the other worlds, as can be learned in the later Ansem Reports (which, sadly, didn't make it to the U.S. release).

    In Reverse/Rebirth, Namine claims that she is Kairi's shadow, which is why Sora will never forget Kairi even if Namine replaced Kairi with herself in Sora's memories. Larxene tries to persuade Namine that this is why she should do her best, so that if she succeeds, she can become a somebody, not just the shadow of a somebody.

    Personally, I believe that Twilight Town is the counterpart to Traverse Town that exists on the mysterious "other side of the heart" that Vexen and the other Organization members refer to several times. I also think it is highly likely that BHK is the Twilight Town version of Sora, and Namine is the Twilight Town version of Kairi (which makes me wonder if BHK and Namine are going to get together in KH2...). I don't think that Riku Replica is the alternate version of Riku. The Replica was created by Vexen using the data he obtained from his battle with Riku. The alternate versions that exist in the other side of the heart all seem to be their own people, with their own memories and emotions, and their actual connection to their counterparts is sketchy at best. KH didn't mention the other side of the heart at all, and CoM didn't really do a damned thing to explain it, it just left us with a bunch of questions. The Riku Replica didn't grow up and have its own life, only to be captured and manipulated by the Organization, as Namine did, it was created by the Organization to be used as a tool. There's not much else I can say beyond that, though. At least, not until we learn what the other side of the heart actually is...
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    i realy thought you guys wold of noticed bye now on the subject of when riku takes the keyblade from sora. riku is the "TRUE KEYBLADE MASTER" therfore her has a stronger heart than sora. sora got it back becasuse of his frends that he had made and riku had none apart from kairi. it was the combined strenght of sora and his frends hearts that ment the keyblade whent back to him. the real problem is that from later on in the game we lern that there are 2 types of keyblade one for operning and one for closing hearts and keyholes and as we see miky has one that means there are more than 1 evil keyblade as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayen
    i realy thought you guys wold of noticed bye now on the subject of when riku takes the keyblade from sora. riku is the "TRUE KEYBLADE MASTER" therfore her has a stronger heart than sora. sora got it back becasuse of his frends that he had made and riku had none apart from kairi. it was the combined strenght of sora and his frends hearts that ment the keyblade whent back to him. the real problem is that from later on in the game we lern that there are 2 types of keyblade one for operning and one for closing hearts and keyholes and as we see miky has one that means there are more than 1 evil keyblade as well.

    if i missed anything ill add it later
    The second keyblade Riku uses wasnt a real keyblade. It was created from the hearts of the princesses and once Riku was defeated returned to the keyblades.

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    sora's heart is stronger now though, BECAUSE of the friends that he's made. His heart has grown through the experience and the reason he got it taken away was because he forgot how strong his heart is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destai
    Quote Originally Posted by sayen
    i realy thought you guys wold of noticed bye now on the subject of when riku takes the keyblade from sora. riku is the "TRUE KEYBLADE MASTER" therfore her has a stronger heart than sora. sora got it back becasuse of his frends that he had made and riku had none apart from kairi. it was the combined strenght of sora and his frends hearts that ment the keyblade whent back to him. the real problem is that from later on in the game we lern that there are 2 types of keyblade one for operning and one for closing hearts and keyholes and as we see miky has one that means there are more than 1 evil keyblade as well.

    if i missed anything ill add it later
    The second keyblade Riku uses wasnt a real keyblade. It was created from the hearts of the princesses and once Riku was defeated returned to the keyblades.
    how lame can you get it says in the game that the keybalde saved one world and it brought devistaion on anther which means there are good and evil keyblades one for operning keyholes and one for closeing them the one riku used against us was real it dissaperd becasue ansem having no hart took over rikus body and changed it into him so the operning keyblade buggerd off

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayen
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    Quote Originally Posted by sayen
    i realy thought you guys wold of noticed bye now on the subject of when riku takes the keyblade from sora. riku is the "TRUE KEYBLADE MASTER" therfore her has a stronger heart than sora. sora got it back becasuse of his frends that he had made and riku had none apart from kairi. it was the combined strenght of sora and his frends hearts that ment the keyblade whent back to him. the real problem is that from later on in the game we lern that there are 2 types of keyblade one for operning and one for closing hearts and keyholes and as we see miky has one that means there are more than 1 evil keyblade as well.

    if i missed anything ill add it later
    The second keyblade Riku uses wasnt a real keyblade. It was created from the hearts of the princesses and once Riku was defeated returned to the keyblades.
    how lame can you get it says in the game that the keybalde saved one world and it brought devistaion on anther which means there are good and evil keyblades one for operning keyholes and one for closeing them the one riku used against us was real it dissaperd becasue ansem having no hart took over rikus body and changed it into him so the operning keyblade buggerd off
    Who am I to say there arent, Theres a new game coming out afterall but the keyblade Riku used clearly burst into round glowing light and flew into the princesses of heart. Leon later confirmed that Rikus keyblade was made up from the princesses hearts. I dont understand some of what you're saying. Learn to punctuate. Its a really neat trick.

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    destai ducks the flurry of jabs and counters with an awesome right hook.

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    you say it went into a princess of heart i saw it dissaper like sora's did when he first got it and leon hever said anything about it being make from the hearts of the 7 princesses i thought they just reverild the key hole that lead to all the worlds. im not pretending to be an expert on kingdom hearts serise i havent even got the right consol to play COM on but that keyblade opend doors maybie mikkys is the other one to the one riku weilded besides it dissaperd after saura used it on himself which would indecate that the 2 greatest hearts had been destryed why soras keyblade came back after the gets a heart again i dont know im just assuming that ansem dident have a heart which is why he dident get the one that opens.


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    he gets up on the 5 count and get's strait back into the action. left jab, right jab, laying those hooks into the kidneys and wammo! send's him to the mat with the beeeeutiful right uppercut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayen
    you say it went into a princess of heart i saw it dissaper like sora's did when he first got it and leon hever said anything about it being make from the hearts of the 7 princesses i thought they just reverild the key hole that lead to all the worlds. im not pretending to be an expert on kingdom hearts serise i havent even got the right consol to play COM on but that keyblade opend doors maybie mikkys is the other one to the one riku weilded besides it dissaperd after saura used it on himself which would indecate that the 2 greatest hearts had been destryed why soras keyblade came back after the gets a heart again i dont know im just assuming that ansem dident have a heart which is why he dident get the one that opens.


    ps use your own puntuation to work out what i said its part of the challange
    (Actually, not using proper punctuation doesn't make deciphiring your text a "challenge" for us, it just makes you look like an idiot, especially when your points go against facts that are presented by the game.)

    When Sora stabs himself with Riku's keyblade, Kairi regains her heart and we see the keyblade revert to its true form of the six hearts belonging to all the princesses except Kairi. Since all the princesses have their hearts again, the keyhole can be opened. This is stated very clearly in the game, so I'm not sure how you missed it.
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    LADIES AND GENTS, WE HAVE A THIRD MAN IN THE RING!!!! he comes in, dodges and weaves, 1 to the head, 1 to the body, 2 more to the head, this is a flurry of punches. left hook, right jab, another right jab and....There it is folks, the final blow, a wonderfully connected left uppercut and that's all she wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sayen
    you say it went into a princess of heart i saw it dissaper like sora's did when he first got it and leon hever said anything about it being make from the hearts of the 7 princesses i thought they just reverild the key hole that lead to all the worlds. im not pretending to be an expert on kingdom hearts serise i havent even got the right consol to play COM on but that keyblade opend doors maybie mikkys is the other one to the one riku weilded besides it dissaperd after saura used it on himself which would indecate that the 2 greatest hearts had been destryed why soras keyblade came back after the gets a heart again i dont know im just assuming that ansem dident have a heart which is why he dident get the one that opens.


    ps use your own puntuation to work out what isaid its part of the challange
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    Ok, what have we learned today?

    1. Puncuation helps articulate your points which allows civilized discussion to take place. (sayen)

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