Did man really walk on the moon?
Was it all just a ploy, to make themselves popular?
Or did they really?
It's questionable, I don't think they did but what about everyone else?
Did man really walk on the moon?
Did man really walk on the moon?
Was it all just a ploy, to make themselves popular?
Or did they really?
It's questionable, I don't think they did but what about everyone else?
I think we did.
I've visited many NASA launch sites, both in Texas and in Florida, and unless it's the greatest, most elaborate conspiracy ever, with the amount of technology and capital that we possess, I can't believe we wouldn't have by now. Even if we didn't in 1969, surely by today we have, though I think we did in '69.
Take care all.
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
This site, while obviously biased, does answer a lot of the questions put forth about whether the moon landings were faked.
Personally, I don't think it makes a whole lot sense, without any real evidence, to think that they didn't happen. If they didn't, then how much of the space program is/was real? Did they ever get a man into orbit? Did they even launch all those rockets? It seems like it if you extrapolate that idea, then it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Just my thoughts, though.
I disable signatures. Killjoy.
hmm....when i watched world greatest conspiracy theorys nasa did try to disprovre it by making the same settings as if they were on the moon thus proving they could fake it
i dont really know
Yeah but that raises another question: Why WOULD they fake it? With the rumours flying around, it doesn't exactly do much for them.
ahem i beleive this room is called "eyes on the world" not eyes on the moon....
jk i think we walked on the moon i mean it seems like a big hoax and i have watched alot of shows that show alot of fake stuff...i do beleive maybe it was fake in 69 too i think they were covering up untill they could actuley do it but the pres set 69 as a deadline so they faked it but now if you watch the footage it looks pretty real
Last edited by Desert Merchant; 03-13-2005 at 10:49 AM.
Excuse me "Desert merchant" since the world would DIE if we didn't have the moon, I think it is a perfectly plausible thing to talk about in this section and I think you should explain your reasons more. Everyone else did.
:laugh: I think Merchant was joking.
Do I believe that man has walked on the moon? Yes I do. Did they do this in '69? Not too sure.
I watched certain shows on this topic, and some of the evidence against it is fairly convincing. And, as it was a "space race" between the USA and the Soviets, the USA could have felt a bit of pressure to "get one over" on them; seeing as the Soviets were the first ones to send a man into space and all. But I guess cannot really say either way.
Yeah, sorry 'bout that Merchant, I'm a little touchy when people make fun of me, joke or no joke, ask my friends, but yeah, I see your point Cless...and yeah, sorry again Merchant...heh heh heh.
I think the *first* landing was fake. The President SWORE that america would achieve their first lunar landing before the end of the decade. They were getting very close to that limit, and this was an era when people actually TRUSTED the government. That kitchen was hotter than ever, and they were getting desperate. So desperate that they attempted to use ships that they KNEW might not make it into space, much less to the moon. Add into that, they "landed" in a zone that no humans could view from earth, no matter the telescope's power. The "dark side" as they say. As far as all the other landings, every one of them we can view using sufficiently powerful lenses. Only that *first*, most critical, most *unlikely* one... it's invisible to us. And by the time it's proven or disproven, everyone involved will have died of old age.
I disagree. If they did fake the first landing, what about the second one? It also occurred before the end of the decade, so either the US faked that one too, for no apparent benefit, or they faked the first one even though they already had a real one planned that would forfil the 'end of the decade' plan.Originally Posted by udsuna
Also, since the president who made that pledge was already dead by that point, I don't think the public would really have any good excuse to react negatively, just because the previous president made a promise that couldn't be forfilled.
Hey, just because the second landing was real, doesn't mean they were SURE it would happen. They made a dozen failed attempts at the moon. And that's just the actual launches, almost all of which were months behind schedual. Not including the ones that never got off the ground. They would have designed a fake landing to go along with a real launch, so that rocket TRIED to make it to the moon. They turn back, but the gov. uses the fake. Or they land, and the gov. quickly destroys the fake.
I think the fake video was probably made months before the launch that it was a part of. The "if, and only if, we have to" mentality. They got as close to the deadline that they could comfortably make, and then did it. Given the other stuff happening in the late 60's, they probably thought it was the best possible way to boost morale and faith in the government. Not to mention shafting the commies.
As for the second landing, they probably never expected it to happen. At least, not in time. So, both launches were certainly real (you can't fake a launch- not with independent press and private citizens all around). But, they could certainly have faked the first landing. Then, the next launch happens either on schedual, or ahead of time... either that, or it was the backup- in case the other didn't even get off the ground- or exploded in view- or whatever. It's known as redundancy, and it's one thing that the US gov. is *REALLY* good at.
Then, they make the "second" landing. The guys in on the fake look at one another, shrug their shoulders, and say "guess we didn't have to". Another says "yeah, but let's keep this little SNAFU hushed up, shall we?" Then, with a few more space launches and the heroes of the "original" landing fading from the public eye, they have a couple decades before anyone goes "hey, something's funny about this."
Last edited by udsuna; 03-13-2005 at 01:43 PM.
I think it's real. I mean, if it suddenly got disproved and exposed as fake, it's a great insult to our human intelligence for having been stupid enough to believe such a big lie for so many years.
I recently watched a special on National geographic which debunked all of the conspiracy theories. Sorry I don't remember all of them but it did state.
Theory 1: Why does the flag wave with no wind?
Answer: The Flag was made on a hollow alluminum shaft, now if you twang something flexible like that it vibrates. The pole was vibrating from the motion of being planted, it continued becuase there was no gravity to stop it.
Theory 2: Why are there no stars in the picture
Answer: There are you just cannot see them becuase they are blotted out by the light reflecting from the surface.
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here this is the War room"
U beat me to posting that.
Yeh we landed on the moon. I hate it when people say we didnt, but i guess i have a few conspriracy theories of my own also.
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