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    Default Is Final Fantasy Getting Better Or Worse?

    This topic basically revolves around the changes between the PS1 games to the PS2 games.
    Anyone here think that FFX was a dramatic flop!
    There are many reasons for this.....
    they lost the world map which I thought was a good thing in installments before.People may disagree with me but I loved it and just setting locations without having the fun of finding it yourself let me down alot.The leveling up system was horrible.The sphere grid was rubbish.Although they brought back the level system in FFX-2
    ( *shivers* ) that game was an all time low for the series.The series always kept a strong long going should I say tradition to always bring up a completely new storyline to a new game. And they couldnt even make the sequel work. And in FFXII which I have yet to play has lost the random battles. OK I know lots of people despise the random battles they were always there and brought the FF feel into the game.I mean come on.The new head for FF is really changing the series for the worse.Hes probably a secret undercover worker for Namco who wants to ruin Squares success. I mean by the time say FFXIX comes out the game will probably resemble Devil May Cry rather than the previous FF games

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    Ah, more talk about the 'feel'. It isnt random battles that make FF what it is. Really, I think it's very senseless to complain about a game that hasnt come out yet.

    If we're talking about steering away from tradition, guess what that began mainly with the PS1 games. Or really, with the SNES games.

    People will always complain about Square. They're either not changing enough and thereby running out of ideas, or changing too much and 'selling out'.

    The 'feel' everyone moans about is highly subjective and has very little to do with the games themselves. For me, this 'feel' was gone when I played VIII and IX. It came back with X which I thought was wonderful.

    As long as FF exists, it's going to grow and try new things. I dont wanna play 20 different stories with the exact same battles, magic systems, and other dynamics. I want my games to be different, and if I didnt well I could sit alone and play the same games over and over again.

    About sequels now... X warranted a sequel. That's why they did it for the first time. They had planned that from the beginning. If it was VII that had the first one, would you complain? Or would it be a masterpiece.

    The constant worries and complaining about XII really make me wanna stay out of the game forums completly. The game isnt out yet. If you dont like it when it does come out, after you play it, then complain. If not, worrying and whining about something you havent played seems silly. I understand that any break from tradition warrants fear and worry. But maybe, just maybe, we'll get a wonderful game and a great battle system out of it.

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    What im saying is that the changes are for worse than good
    People will say the world map should go
    the random battles should go
    I should go

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    Final Fantasy is continuing. Quality is something that only exists in our minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJZen
    Final Fantasy is continuing. Quality is something that only exists in our minds.
    Good Point

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    I am very confident that FFXII will be an absolutely incredible game. As to the random battle issue, it's worth noting that both Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross featured non-random battles. Although FFXII's system will be markedly different, you can't dismiss the fact that those two masterpieces had no random fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamune1600
    As to the random battle issue, it's worth noting that both Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross featured non-random battles. Although FFXII's system will be markedly different, you can't dismiss the fact that those two masterpieces had no random fights.
    Neither of those were released in the UK
    Grandia had no Random battles and I prefered FF for lots of reasons and one of them was because of no random battles

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    You're saying that you think the changes are for the worse rather than for the better. Many gamers are happy for the changes, many arent. Not everyone can be satisfied.

    Try downloading the rom of Chrono Trigger. It's an amazing game and the battles were the best part.

    One of the things I dislike in RPGs is random battles. In IX especially. I couldnt walk two feet without a battle, and in many dungeons it left me confused as to which way I was going before the battle, which meant me getting lost, which meant more random battles.

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    Unhappy plus and minus

    Personally, I always liked the random battles. But I hardly think that their presence/absence makes or breaks the game.

    But yes, the games have changed, and they will only continue to change. IMHO, there hasn't really been a bad game yet. Some I like more than others, but that's only personal preferences, and I still like them.

    But come on, think, are the changes really that bad? They're still coming up with the same great storylines, and to me, that's always been where "the feel" came from. Granted the style of the storylines has changed a bit. My favorites are still FF4, 6, and 7.

    And please, do give FF12 a chance. Who's to say that it won't be wonderful when it isn't even out yet?
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    hm.. can anyone really say if its getting better or worse? I think thats like saying theres a slope.. when really its a rollercoaster... You cant be sure cuz if they come out with something great next... they just messed with the idea of getting worse... :P

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    I think ff12 looks friggin' awesome. There's gonna be like, weather and motion/scent/vibration sensors and stuff.

    I also have no love lost for there not being a world map in ffx. I managed to get quite lost enough in macalania the first time I played^_^

    (and something I've been wondering recently. . . Does anyone actually use the airship coordinates lookingfor thing? or try to solve the al bhed puzzles and stuff? Because if you just get the stuff off a faq or a walkthrough, why should you complain? I'm sure there probably are people that do that and still have issues, and that's fine.)

    some people just get mad that each game isn't exactly the same. and somehow, people get mad because they're all the same. strangely enough, the same goes for movies and stuff. People just can't be satisfied, or something.

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    well, there are things i don't like about each FF , but i never take it to a serious level :jap: . for some, they'd probably say that the graphics have gotten better , but the storylines have gotten worse :-\ . i'm just glad that FF is still moving on :bigbiggri .

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    There are some changes I liked and some I didn't. I think it's good that Square tries out new things, if all FF's would be the same just with a different story, it would get boring very fast.

    The new battle system in FFXII is something I'm looking forward to, as I have the feeling that it will be something like in KOTOR.

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    FFXII is going to have somewhat similar battle system as in XI, only its offline.

    and yes, I thought FF's were going downhill, ...until XI came out. I just hope FFXII isnt another FF where you can slash for 99,999 damage. :rolleyes:
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateSpamGrover
    I just hope FFXII isnt another FF where you can slash for 99,999 damage. :rolleyes:
    Agreed.

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