Im giving Abominatrix my support on this. Everything squareSOFT has said seems to be just his own "flawed" opinion. Especially that uninformed talk about dumping Enix to improve Squares sales.
Im giving Abominatrix my support on this. Everything squareSOFT has said seems to be just his own "flawed" opinion. Especially that uninformed talk about dumping Enix to improve Squares sales.
My goodness
First off, I have from different sources that people across the world bought FF7 without knowing what and RPG was. And the only people whocontinue to play it are ff freaks like myself who DONT play a game for the graphics always. THe majority of gamers howeve, do. Same reason for ppl who pick up FF7 for the first time. They enjoy it because they dont like a game for the graphics. HOWEVER that is UNLIKE the majority of gamers, most of whom played it back when it came out fo the visuals. And all you gotta do is look up ff x-2 sales on google or some game site and find out that they sold only one milion copies. Compared to other ff games thats chicken feed. Honestly how much do you know about ff?
You have nothing to back up anything you're saying. You have different sources from around the world, eh? Who? Prove this to me.
I know lots of people who picked up FFVII without playing FF ever because it seemed interesting. They played it, they loved it, they're FF fans.
X-2 only sold 1 million? Yeah I doubt that. As I said, prove it to me. Show me proof. And even if it did, those are still good sales.
How much do I know about FF? Get over yourself, please.
OH wow
MY mY my. Who said x-2 only sold 1 million. Oh ummmmmmmmmmmmmm. SQUARE ENIX themselves. my my my. And as for my sources. Well, you know this thing called MSN? I have talked to literaly hundreds of ppl who said they were attracted to ff7 purley on the graphical level.
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I picked up FFVII for no reason at all having played no other RPG's before it and all my other PS1 games had much beter graphics. I didnt care, I loved it because it was enjoyable gameplay and the best story I had ever seen.
X-2 sold one million and counting. Those other FF games have been around much much longer and have had just more time to sell. If you hink one million is peanuts then you havent played many other games. Also X-2 wasnt made by Enix. They had only merged around the time it was released in Japan. You ant say Enix is making FF worse by basin that fact on XI and X-2? Xi hardly counts for obvious reasons to any one who knows much about it although the project was well underway before Enix and X-2 hasnt much to do with Enix.
Final Fantasy started going downhill with FF8 with Squall and a mushy, poorly written storyline.
The biggest reason FF is "worse" now, though, is that it's not the best anymore. Back in the early-to-late 90s, FF was the best the RPG genre, with very few exceptions. Now it's not. Suikoden is better, Lunar is better, others also believe Breath of Fire is now better than FF, etc.
Yes. Enix only merged with square a few months before the release of x-2. But i'l bet you that they also has SOME input at least. Not to mention we KNOW the square boys can make games but as 4 the new guyz we'll have to see for FF XII. Yes, x-2 will sell more copies but it will NEVER get up to other ff's unless you think it will quadruple its total sales. And just because YOU picked up FF 7 for those reasons that does not reperesnet the total population. Mabe not to many people picked up ff 7 for graphics but even if it was only like 15% thats still a big difference.
have you played Suikode IV?!!!!!!!!! They might not even mAKe a BOF VI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and lunar? well just play it and tell me it wasnt a waste!!! Honestly FF is still the best even if it is going downhill
x-2: 1 million sales in north america from ~november 2003 to january 2004 (three months) (it did come out in the US in november right? march for japan and november for us?) ~2 million sales in Japan from march 2003 to january 2004
x: 4 million sales (not sure if NA alone or with JP also.) from December 2001 to January 2002. (thirteen months)
viii: 1 million sales in NA from September 1999 to December 1999 (four months) 4 million in Japan from march 1999 to december 1999. (nine months)
For some reason, I didn't see very distinct stats corresponding to ff9 or 7.
I forget why I looked all this up, who I was trying to disprove, but for now, I think I'll just leave off with this:
"ALWAYS LOOK AT YOUR DATES."
numbers courtesy of gamespot.com
(Friggin', *FIVE* people posted while I tried to look that all up? Teh
sux)
((and someone else while I was editing it-_-))
You still have yet to provide any proof. You saying that others have said it doesnt make a single bit of difference. Feel free to post it when you get it.
I dont think any of those games can compete in sales and didnt VI and IV have mushy love stories too? VI and IV being some of the most loved FF games by the old school fans. Im one of many who think the games are just as good and improving just like theres many who think theyre not as good. Theyre sales are huge and growing.Final Fantasy started going downhill with FF8 with Squall and a mushy, poorly written storyline.
The biggest reason FF is "worse" now, though, is that it's not the best anymore. Back in the early-to-late 90s, FF was the best the RPG genre, with very few exceptions. Now it's not. Suikoden is better, Lunar is better, others also believe Breath of Fire is now better than FF, etc.
Listen you can disbelieve me all you want but I know that at least 20 % of the ppl I talk to about ff7 said they were drwn by the graphics
FFVII's graphics werent that impressive for a newly released game.Neither do the people you've spoken with on the graphics.And just because YOU picked up FF 7 for those reasons that does not reperesnet the total population.
YES ff 7 graphics were impressive for a ps1 game. Especially cause ps1 just came out. Ask any website and they'll tell you that they were VERY good back then. Also, no mabe the ppl I talk to dont represent the total population but Ive talked to hundreds(literally) and you are just one person
Yes but you have to take into account Ive spoken to 2,340,002 people about the graphics (literally) and they didnt pick it up for the graphics.
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