On Freedom of Speech

[AkiraMakie]

DarkLadyNyara -- O.J. got off because he was black AND famous. There were people on his jury that said "oh it didn't matter if he was innocent, it was just about time that a black man beat the system for once instead of the system beating the black man." People actually believed that since they thought too many black people had been wrongly convicted, it was perfectly fine for a double-murderer to go free.

i agree with you there. its was more fun just knowing that a black man beat the system at its own game. i know i never really cared weather he did it or not.

No, I'm not saying that. You're right, nobody should have to tolerate persecution just because they are (or are not) of a certain race, no matter which race that may be. But there's a HUGE difference in the "racism" that black people face nowdays and the REAL racism that they faced decades ago, and one would be either incredibly ignorant or incredibly arrogant not to realize that.

What the hell is "real" racsim and "fake" racism? Racism is racism. plain and simple. Just like when the killed Emmit Till for looking at a white girl wrong, they will do the same thing nowwa days. In fact its well documented how racism is still strong in america, especially in the southern states. Hell not to long ago there was a case where at Couple of good ole white boys tied a black guy up to the back of their pick up truck and dragged him for a couple miles. But i will agree with you on one point. The racism black folks faced in the early 40's, 50's, 60's, is not the way we experience it today. Its more subtle now. Now you got people that are "in the closet racist" because its quite possible to end up in jail now for being commiting hate crimes against blacks. So its not that racism is any more real or fake than it was in teh past. its just that the way its packaged is alittle different. Every time you turn on the news and you see something bad that involves black folks but you never even see or hear about crimes commited by white people; RACISM. Everytime you look and they ALWAYS show black people on welfare, show black people being homeless, like there are no white homeless and no white people on welfare ; RACISM. Everytime you see drug users and or people selling drugs you are only gonna hear about black people. All that is a form of racism. It helps to flame the steretypes about black people that you so obviously believe in.

By the way. No, I have never been through a trial. But to say the justice system is racist is rediculous. Ever heard of a "jury of peers"? Most juries for black trials are made up at least half of black people. So, what, black people are racist against black people too? Or are all the lawyers racist and don't defend their black clients because they want them to go to jail? Or are the judges racist? Or the bailifs, or the prison guards?

Well its obvious that you've never been on trail or gone to jail for anything because of your lack of knowledge on the judicial system and how it works from the inside, not what they teach you in books or on "law and order".

How can you make a general assumption that all juries made up for black people contain at least half? Yeah that would work in a big city, But if a crime takes place in a smaller city where most of the black people know each other and live in teh same area then if they had to draw a jury pool, that would disqualify most of the black folk because they live close to you or know you. Most prosecutors and judges will dismiss you from jury duty if you know the defendant or live near them. So that would ultimately make the jury pool have more white people on it than black people. i would say that most jurys are at least 1/3 black people. And lets not get on these pussy ass public defenders that dont give a damn weather you go to jail or not. They get paid weather you go to jail or not. So im not saying they are racist, they just dont care. Like i said before, the only way for a black man to get off is to have decent representation. and the only way to be able to have a good lawyer is to be rich. other than that, a black man aint got no chance.

And yes black people can be racist against ourselves, but thats one of our conditions that doesnt really concern anyone else. We put to much thought into how light or dark we are and we seem to value a lighter skin person over a darker skin person. Its something thats been instilled in us since slavery times. When it worked out for you to be light skinned. but im not gonna go into that, cause im sure you already dont understand.

Of course you don't remember it. And of course it was part of the retaliation for Rodney King--only a small part. Remember the riots, the violence, the incredible amounts of looting that happened, all claimed as "retaliation" for Rodney King? What is it, one of my people got what he deserved in getting beat up by some of your people, so now our people are going to destroy millions and millions of dollars worth of property, cost many millions more in delays, protection, etc., and beat up some of your people too? Is that fair? Is that even understandable? Oh, and there was no "Rodney King scandal". It was a beating, and there was a trial. No scandal.

I clearly said that it was wrong and that i feel sorry for the man. What was the point of even bringing this back up?

"But I guess you can't really see our side, not being black and all." What a crock. Just because somebody may not be black doesn't mean that they don't know what black people really go through. (by the way...psssssst...just so you know...just because somebody's not black...that doesn't mean they're racist against black people either...it may surprise you, but the whole world really isn't out to get you...)

No, you dont know what its like to be black cause your not black. There is NO way to understand whats its like unless you are in that particular place. Just like i was watching this documentary called "Born Rich" on HBO the other day. And it had all these little rich white kids who have everything, but have so many problems. "oh i dont know what im gonna do with my life...seeing as how im rich and all...i dont really have to work." Now, im sure they really had a legitamate problem. but i couldnt understand it. Why because im neither white nor rich(obviously). AND i didnt say all white people are racist.

I have plenty of tolerance, and I don't care about race. No matter who my daughter dated, I would check them out anyway--white, black, Asian, Mexican, whatever, I'd still be wary of 'em. I wouldn't be any more cautious because he was black, I would only be more cautious if he acted like somebody I didn't approve of. I wouldn't have a problem with letting my kids have black friends, as I have black friends of my own. Hell, a couple black friends even conceded that I was half black just by what I like to eat.

if you say so...

That being said... How much "racism" is actually brought upon black people by themselves? You mentioned that a white guy was surprised to hear you would play Final Fantasy. Is that the fault of white people, or black people? It seems that too many black people have given the entire race a name of wannabe gangsters and pimps and drug dealers. A lot of people would be somewhat surprised to hear that a black person would be interested in Final Fantasy. Obviously stereotypes and generalizations aren't correct for the entire group, no matter which group it is, but black people tend to bring a lot of it upon themselves. For example, why is it that when a black guy succeeds in something, like business, he "turns white"? There aren't successful black people, there are just "oreos" that look black but are white on the inside, or people that have turned their backs on their black roots? Just pointing it out.

They so called "turn white" because that is the only way to succed in a white mans business. THE ONLY WAY. But your right, we do bring alot of our steretypes on ourselves. i will definately give you that. Specially with rap music being so popular with the general population now. But how does being a gangster and what not equate to not liking a FF game. that doesnt make since. So are you saying gangsters arent smart enough to play those games? Or you saying that gangsters are jsut to tough to want to play these games. Look, its like this, Just how white folks enjoy rap music and hip hop, we can enjoy some of the things that arent specific to the black culture too. I also agree that, yes, alot of have turned our backs on our roots. Black folks are quick to forget where they come from.