Quote Originally Posted by DMKA
Say he goes to get a job, but the percentage of, say, african americans has not ben filled for that job, but they've already got a decent amount of white guys working there. Say him, and a african american guy both apply for that same job...the african american guy, going by affirmative action, will get the job, and he will be pushed aside...because he's white. Of course, it has a good intention, and it's not because him specifically, but it's still because he happened to be then and there, and he was white.

I think that's wrong, and I think who's best qualified should be hired reguardless. Because really Affirmative Action is pure and utter racism, but for a good cause (well that may be a matter of opinion). As much as I dislike it and think it's screwed up, I think it's still needed from what I see around me where I live, and that's why I support it.

If I believed we could get rid of it and have people hired fairly based upon qualifications and nothing else, than I'd be against it, but in areas like this, I just don't see it happening.
I understand how AA works. I didnt ask him that. i asked for hime to give a personal example of being turned down something because of his race. Secondly, if you were turned down because of your race, you wouldnt know it cause the employer wouldnt tell you that. So how would you know weather or not the black person was more or less qualified than yourself. You could only assume, and assumptions dont mean a damn thing.

And yes, i think AA is a nesassary evil. If people hired fairly, we wouldnt need it. ShunNakamura keeps saying that Quotas are not the way, but i dont see any other way. other than AA , there is no other way to make sure people hired fairly. If there was, i would be all for it, but there isnt. And on top of that, through out all of this, no one has even mentioned(cept for myself) thatAA works in reverse as well.

If a white college student wanted to go to a prodominately black college he's almost certain to get in over other higher qualified black students. Same goes for prodominately black work places. But not one even mentions that. That make is seem like its black peoples fault that we even have AA, but it was so the playing field would be fair. I personally think that if AA was suddenly ended, it would go back to being the way it was before. But Sas doesnt even think that racism is as bad as we say. On top of that, he used japan's racism as an example. But th thing about that is, the japanese dont like others based on Nationality. If you were japanese, you would be accepted. But in america, the racism is differnt. Im not another nationality, im American. But in america, they dont judge by Nationality. They judge you by skin color. Which is a differnt type of racism all together. Im not accepted in my own native country. Which i believe is a more dangerous type of racism.