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    Don't worry Raist, even if Congress passes, the Supreme Court will knock it down.

    Hear, hear! Some Democrat just lambasted the Congress.

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    Don't worry Raist, even if Congress passes, the Supreme Court will knock it down.
    Of course they will - after the feeding tube is reinserted, so we have to go through this whole fiasco all over again!

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    God Bless American Democracy, eh?

    Great speech by Mel Watt.

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    Don't worry Raist, even if Congress passes, the Supreme Court will knock it down.
    Of course they will - after the feeding tube is reinserted, so we have to go through this whole fiasco all over again!
    I'd just like to further point out that that's exactly what happened in 2003. The only difference was that it was the Florida legislation, not US Congress.

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    Red Tape and debating based on ideology is the downfall of democracy in my opinion.

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    What "karma"? She is already dead. What lies there is nothing but a corpse that still happens to have a pulse. Nothing more, and nothing less. You could call it a mercy killing, but that would be wrong... after all, you can't show mercy to a desk or a plastic bottle. Mercy applies to life, something that poor woman lost 15 years ago. It's time for people to move on.
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    My goodness, why is science rejected so easily? Tom Delay says she's parched and hungry... simply astonishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain
    My goodness, why is science rejected so easily? Tom Delay says she's parched and hungry... simply astonishing.

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    I will answer you the way they would

    "Science has been proved wrong way to many times in the past. How do we know they are right now? They could be wrong and we can't take that chance when someone's life is involved."

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    My reply to them would be:

    "If you believe in God's will, why are you attempting to play God by deciding what life is?"

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    If I were to fall into that situation, but I knew beforehand, i'd tell any one of my family just to cut the support.

    Most likely I'd pull the cord for another too. I'm pretty sure no one would want to live like that.

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    Creeps. I mean, the people who removed the tube thingy.
    I see the four rider's a' coming.

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    "Science has been proved wrong way to many times in the past. How do we know they are right now? They could be wrong and we can't take that chance when someone's life is involved."
    My reply to them would be:

    Yeah, it's been proved wrong with more science, hard evidence. Not wishful thinking.

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    Again, sorry for the double-post, but I just saw an update on cnn.com and I think everyone should see this:

    Source: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/21/schiavo/index.html

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    TAMPA, Florida (CNN) -- A federal court in Tampa scheduled a hearing for 3 p.m. ET Monday in Terri Schiavo's case after her parents petitioned to have the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube reinserted.
    Federal court? Didn't the federal courts dismiss the petition, saying they didn't have jurisdiction?

    Hours earlier, President Bush signed into a law a bill authorizing the federal courts to review the case after emergency weekend sessions in the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate.
    D'oh. Ok, so Congress and Bush are basically forcing the federal courts to review the case. Blatant abuse of power.

    He has said his wife would not want to continue living in a persistent vegetative state -- which court-appointed doctors have determined she is in.
    Again, just pointing out that she can't feel pain.

    Bush's signature followed a 203-58 vote in the House early Monday approving a bill to transfer the case's jurisdiction to federal court. The Senate passed the legislation by voice vote Sunday.
    I bet the ones who voted against it were called unpatriotic and murderers, even though they're defending Terri's rights far more than the other 203 are.

    In a statement, Bush said: "Today, I signed into law a bill that will allow federal courts to hear a claim by or on behalf of Terri Schiavo for violation of her rights relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.
    Bull. They're violating her right to die after courts have ruled that she would want to time and time again.

    "In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life."
    They do. Florida law mandates that. And, on appeal from the parents, the Florida court of appeals affirmed the lower courts ruling that Terri would want to die.
    I also, again, like how he doesn't actually mention any of the "serious questions and substantial doubts."

    In the House, 47 Democrats joined 156 Republicans in voting for the bill following more than three hours of passionate debate.
    Man, I would've loved to have been there.

    The extraordinary session had supporters, primarily Republicans, arguing that the issue was Schiavo's "right to life," while a Democrat warned that passing the measure would "undermine over 200 years of jurisprudence."
    Indeed it did. Congress went well beyond it's authority, and I hope the Supreme Court comes to its senses.

    "We are very, very, very thankful to have crossed this bridge, and we're very hopeful that the federal courts will follow the will of Congress and save my sister's life," said Suzanne Vitadamo, Schiavo's sister.
    Unfortunately, the will of Congress is to save Terri's life, and to make a political point in doing so. Congress's will in this case is not to see justice.
    Just so you don't misinterpret my intent, my will is not that Terri die. My will, exclusively, is to have Terri's will be followed to the letter, and courts have ruled over and over that Terri would want to die, which is enough proof for me.

    "I think that every American in this country should also be outraged that this government is trampling all over a personal family matter that has been adjudicated in the courts for seven years," he said.
    I am outraged. Congress went well above their authority here to force-feed this case to federal court. If the federal courts uphold Terri's right to die, I would love to see their reactions.

    The bill transfers jurisdiction of the case to the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida to determine whether her constitutional rights or rights as a U.S. citizen are being violated.
    By passing an unconstitutional law. How ironic. Just goes to show that the government can follow whatever temporary selfish motives they have by passing laws that the Supreme Court would take months to look over. *shakes head sadly*


    I was afraid something like this would happen with a Republican President and Republican majority in Congress and 5-4 Republican Supreme Court. The entire government controlled by one political party(I don't care if it's Republican or Democrat) is not a good thing. Now we have Congress trampling over due process and the judicial system.

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    You see. This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to leave the country for a different one. One that works for the people...at least a bit more often. This government is too corrupt, big and in the pockets of buisnesses. Nothing important really gets accomplished in a reasonable amount of time. They spend too much time on crap like this or baseball when there are things that are a lot more important to be dealt with.

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