Serious or silly?

[Yamaneko]

That doesn't mean you have to say "this is dumb." You can take the extra two seconds of thought to instead type, "I don't see why this is necessary" or something similarly non-derogatory.

I really wish people could see through PC phrases.

The rules of the board should tell the admins and mods how to act. The more rules there are the less fun mods can have. It is their job to uphold the rules and follow them better than anyone else.

The more rules a society has, the more problems it's going to have. Rules should only be applied once something within the society is deemed inappropriate. Of course we can make a bunch of rules off the bat and make everyone miserable.

[Raistlin]

I really wish people could see through PC phrases.

It's not PC. It's not flaming the members and making them look stupid. Leave the "this is stupid" stuff to the regular members.

The more rules a society has, the more problems it's going to have.

I think there's more of a curve to it, actually.

Rules should only be applied once something within the society is deemed inappropriate.

Yep, and the last time I checked, flaming and mocking was deemed inappropriate a long time ago.
The "not blowing off member suggestions" was just a request to, oh, I dunno, be considerate of members who might not have the experience of other people. It's otherwise referred to as "common courtesy" or "basic respect."

[Yamaneko]

Yes, because the request for a T-Rex smiley needs to be addressed in a serious and professional manner.

So, the regular members can be complete jackasses, but the staff has to set the example no one will follow?

[MecaKane]

Yes, because the request for a T-Rex smiley needs to be addressed in a serious and professional manner.

So, the regular members can be complete jackasses, but the staff has to set the example no one will follow?

I don't know if you're aware of it, but you're talking about a forum that has :shoot: and :chop: as smilies.

[Yamaneko]

If it's already broken, don't try to break it even more.

[Raistlin]

Yes, because the request for a T-Rex smiley needs to be addressed in a serious and professional manner.

Other smiley suggestions have been immediately accepted...let's just say it doesn't need "this is stupid - no one cares."

So, the regular members can be complete jackasses, but the staff has to set the example no one will follow?

Not quite to that degree, but staff definitely should have higher standards than regular members. You remember my FG admin days - I was willing to accept much more crap from regular members than staff. And that's how it should be.
The point is, staff shouldn't be "complete jackasses" period. Some members may at one time or another get away with perhaps more than they should have, but staff should never have to be analyzed to such an extent.

[Ultima Shadow]

I like the smilie

All staffs and admins should be like this dude.

[Del Murder]

I mean by not patronizing members, not cussing out members, not getting into fights with members, not blowing off stupid suggestions(you know all the stupid stuff you guys deal with here in Feedback? Multiply that by ten and you get what I have to deal with at tGA, so I'm speaking from experience here), and the like.

I mean restrain yourself as a member here. You say you don't bother trying to restrain yourself, and when a mod tells you you've gone over the line, you know not to continue down that path. Does that mean you will do the things in the quote above until you are told not to (patronizing/cussing/fights/etc.), or were you referring to something else?

[Raistlin]

Does that mean you will do the things in the quote above until you are told not to (patronizing/cussing/fights/etc.), or were you referring to something else?

By "I don't bother restraining myself" I meant that I don't bother restraining myself specially for these forums. I still have the basic "common courtesy" and "basic level of respect" things going, but I don't restrain myself additionally to fit into the boundaries of all the rules. And I believe staff members should.

[Del Murder]

Oh, ok.

Yes, I think we can all stand to act a little more professionally. But how do you get them to if no one is listening? I can only speak for myself.

[Roogle]

Oh, I could. I definitely could. But I do not in the interest of peace.

Maybe we'll get somewhere when you're ready to, heh!

[Raistlin]

I've already posted them in prior locked LJ entries, which are viewable by BoB, Yams, and Kishi.

If you wish, I can PM/email them to you(or you can ask BoB or them, who I give permission here to share anything from my LJ with EoFF Staff). But for now, I'm going to leave those issues at rest.


Del: yes, you only speak for yourself. But your actions speak for Staff as a whole. You also have authority in the staff forum, and can be a voice to see change to the benefit of the forums. Isn't that what your job is? Doesn't being on staff mean something more than closing threads?

[Del Murder]

You can voice all you want, but if no one listens then it's just like speaking to a wall.

[Raistlin]

Oh, I know BoB hears me. One of those occasions even disturbed him.

[-N-]

I prefer my staff [strike]shaken, not stirred[/strike] silly, not serious.

Seriously, what good has having a stick shoved up your ass ever done?