Help on Omega Weapon

[seiyuimore]

Can you defeat omega weapon with:
1. Only 2 characters HP 9999
2. No Hero
3. No Holy war
4. Squall's gunblade is only the Punishment

[Sepho]

It's possible to beat Omega with a single character and no invincibility items.

It's something I've never attempted, but I'm sure Ultima Shadow will stop by and share some advice the next time he checks the boards.

[Skyblade]

Invincible Moon...

[Yellow]

I had, in my mind, the oh so great epic battle with omega.
zell, squall, rhinoa. All of them had their ultimate weapons but I didnt have all the magic or 99 of the good magics, or even know how to use zell's limit break correctly. And I just pressed the auto button for the junction, I never understood it.. Level 99 everyone not sure if everyone had 9999 hp but probably.

I beat omega weapon in about 20+ minutes (im thinking near 40).
No holy wars, holy man or whatever it was called.
All I did was aura (or w.e. it was called - the one that gave you limit breaks) after aura, little doggy (PRAYING for invincible moon), lionheart, and GF/ultima/meteor (zelll, but they did like 3000 at the most.. weird).
I die.
Phoenix!!
aura, little doggy (BEGGING for invincible moon), lionheart, curaga (zell)
lionheart
Omega gets red
SQUALL DIES!!
ZELL DIES!!
Rhinoa's turn... COME ON INVINCLIBLE MOON!! I need to get squall back!!
little doggy cannon.. Im devestated.. 40 minutes wasted..

UAAAAAAHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGRRRRRRR

HE DIES!!!!! I rejoice, check out the proof of omega and say:
"all of that.. for this?! WTF?! Oh well.. at least I beat it without holy wars and hero dude =)"
....because I didnt want to give away that card for the holy items (gilgamesh I think). I dont know why, I didnt even collect cards, and I sucked at the card game. Then I proceded to beat the game.

I lost to omega at least 10 times (2-3 hours), and I lost at least 5 times when I went to beat the game afterwards.

............so I guess.... good luck, I needed lots of it, and you definitely need more if you wanna go for it.

--even in other FF's, Im still scared of Light Pillar =*(

[seiyuimore]

Well I use cerberus - triple then use Aura, manage to score 100,000 hp damage but die in Terra break attack
(Rinoa never used invicible moon)

And did again, this time, angelo reverse came and before even rinoa's turn to do anything, Omega has charged her and then she died.

this happen all the time. Sometimes omega weapon give me 1 or 2 turns before he used Terra break after Mendigo Flare but sometimes he just go bam Meteor, Bam Mendigo flare without letting my character with auto-haste could do anything

That is why I am asking for help. This omega weapon is far more frustrating than Ultima Weapon

[Squall of SeeD]

If you're only trying to beat Omega and don't care how you go about it, use this strategy:

(Note: It's preferable that Selphie's HP be in the yellow and her Level be 100, but it's not absolutely necessary.)

Take Selphie into the battle and have all three characters with a 100% Status Defense to Death Spells. Also take some Holy Wars and Aura Spells with you. Throw an Aura on Selphie, throw a Holy War on the group, then have Selphie begin re-rolling her Slot Limit Break until The End appears. Cast it on Omega Weapon and victory is yours.


This strategy is cheap as hell, but if it's not an ethical issue for you, or you wouldn't feel unaccomplished by using it, I say go for it. However, I suggest keeping a save that will allow you to go back and fight Omega Weapon again using less cheap strategies.

[seiyuimore]

Ahem, thank you for the advise but I don't have holy war or Hero or Laguna's card at all. So I can't use holy war or hero. Rinoa's invicible moon never came out as well (Out of luck)

Where to get Hero & Holy war beside card mod Laguna's card?

[Rinen]

If your fingers are fast enough, you can use Irvine's Quick Shot and Zell's limit break. One time I had 30 seconds on Zell's limit, and it took me a total of .25 seconds to do Booya and Punch Rush. With each hit, I knocked off around 3k-3.5k hp (if Zell is maxed out with a lot of strength, you can hopefully do max damage), so if you multiply that by the number of possible hits, in my case was around 110-120 combos. So when he's done with that, he knocked off a whopping 360k damage. That's if you are fast enough, and have an amazing timer. Make sure you have spd junction with maxed out triples. That way you can make your characters pretty fast. Cast aura on all three. If Rhinoa is good enough, use Invincible Moon, a wonderful limit break, and then go again with Zell's limit break, and with Rhinoa's Invincible Moon and Wishing Star limit breaks. On the side have Irvine use quick shot, although you are limited to only 100 of each ammo, you can still do somewhat decent. My advice is stock up on magic and get some junction scrolls if you dont have them for each GF. If Zell is fast enough, and if you are lucky enough, you would do over with Omega in half an hour. Just hope that your characters are fast enough to cast triple and aura on all. Cast full life when someone dies, if two dies, hope that triple is still in there and cast full life on the other two, repeat process until Omega is dead.

(I was lucky enough where Rhinoa kept using Invincible Moon when I needed it, and for the most part when I didn't, Wishing Star and sometimes Angelo Cannon)

[Sepho]

The most important thing to remember is, that Omega has a pattern. And the Defend command completely negates the effects of any attack, Terra Break included. If you can time your use of the Defend command, you can last forever against Omega.

I'm sorry that I can't be of more help. I'm more of the type of RPGer that likes to completely overpower my opponent, and I haven't beat Omega without Holy Wars (that's not to say that I haven't tried 40+ times, before I knew about the Defend command).

[Braindead_Paul]

That is why I am asking for help. This omega weapon is far more frustrating than Ultima Weapon

Where's Ultima Shadow?!?!!?
Don't tell me he's tired of discussing this topic...

[Sepho]

Couldn't be...

[Laugh at face of Danger]

Omega is a hard nut to crack, and takes around half an hour, if you can, max out all HP and try and get 3xDefend commands, one per character, 100xDeath to Status-Def-J and then get Zell, Quistis/Rinoa and Squall together at lv100, then use Lionheart as many times as possible, use Zell Booya/Punch rush many times, With Rinoa pray for Invincible moon (will come in a dire fix) with Quistis use Mighty Guard but be careful about curative magic then. In a while Omega should settle into a pattern, try and use a Holy War/Hero on at least one character and summon GF Cerberus to cast triple/double everything. You should have got one Hero some where on Disk 2 or 3 not sure where. Try it and pray, it works

[Rinen]

Not to mention to cast meltdown on him. Nothing much to it but time and preparation.

[seiyuimore]

Well I used defends on Rinoa but still Terra break wiped her up within 2 hits.

Dunno what Defends command is only for physical attack or including magic attacks

[Ultima Shadow]

It's something I've never attempted, but I'm sure Ultima Shadow will stop by and share some advice the next time he checks the boards.

Yes, I will.

The most important thing to remember is, that Omega has a pattern. And the Defend command completely negates the effects of any attack, Terra Break included. If you can time your use of the Defend command, you can last forever against Omega.

Well, it's not completely true. Defend negates all "pshycical" attacks, not magical. Terra break, however... IS a psycical attack... but Megido Flame and Lightpillar are not.

Where's Ultima Shadow?!?!!?
Don't tell me he's tired of discussing this topic...

I'm right here! Sorry, but I didn't check here yesterday. You should have PMd me about this topic!!!
I'll never get tierd of discussing this... but i'll get to that later. First I'll help this dude.

Now... let's get on with the business!

1. Only 2 characters HP 9999= Good
2. No Hero= Great!
3. No Holy war= Great!
4. Squall's gunblade is only the Punishment= Good

Now... this is what you need. 2 GFs with the Defend command (Cactuar and Brothers), 100 death at stats-def, some good speed and either x-potions, elexirs or megaelexirs... or alot of curaga magics. You should also have some aura, meltdown and full-lifes.

Note: Megaelexirs will make this battle MUCH easier. Autohaste is a great bonus.

Now... the battle itself should go like this:
1) Omega use Level5 death: You are immune. You cast meltdown on Omega with 1 character and Cerberus with the other one.

(If you don't have auto-haste, cast haste on your characters as soon as possible).

2) Omega use Meteor. You heal your characters until they have 9999 hp and cast either Aura, Shell or Regen. If Omega is using Psycical attacks and haven't been able to cast Meteor yet, use Aura and then pummel him with limmitbreaks. If you don't have any megaelexirs at all, use Regen. If none of the above, then use shell. Without megaelexirs, Regen will atleast help you recover a bit from all of Omegas crappy attacks, Shell blocks some dammage from the crappy attacks and Aura is what you'll use to take away his HP. I you've got alot of megaelexirs and is pretty much faster than Omega, just use Aura. But the most important part is to "FULLY RECOVER after Meteor!!!"

3)Omega will use Megido Flame and your HP will go down to 1!!! You've got 3 choises. The safe but more expensive choise: Use a megaelexir or heal with triple Curaga or X-potions/Elexirs so that your character are completely restored. Later you'll have to heal AGAIN because of Gravia.
The safe and less expensive way: Use defend and standby with your characters like that until Terra Break is cast. THEN heal your characters.
The more risky way: Don,t heal and don't defend but use this moment to unload limmitbreaks. The risky part is if Omega would attack with a normal, psycical attack. However... if both your characters have high evade, it's less risky. If you do this, remember to put on Defend as soon Omega have used "Gravia". Gravia is demi-based and since you've only got 1 HP, it won't do any dammage. Heal directly after Terra Break, no matter what.

4) Omega will use Gravia and then Terra Break... but I've only told you what to do. Whatever happens... your characters "must" Defend after Omega uses Gravia.

5) After Terra Break, Omega will cast Ultima. It will do about 3000-4000 dammage to the average party, 1500-2000 to the average party with Shell and patetic dammage to a party with 240+ spr.

6) Light Pillar. 1 character WILL die... as long as you don't use GFs take the dammage instead. But it's much better to just let 1 character die and then revive him/her with Full-Life.

Then everything will repeat. Just put in a few Limmitbreaks whenever you have the time and recast Aura when the effect wears off. It's really pretty simple. If you're actually using a 3th character even though he don't have 9999 hp, then don't even bother trying to have him/her survive Megido Flame or Terra break. Well... he CAN survive Terra Break if you use protect on him + you're lucky, but expect him/her to die. Just revive him/her with full-life.

Command Junctioning!!!

If you have some megaelexirs and use 3 characters: Equip both 9999 characters with Magic, Item and Defend. The 3th character is optional but he/she should have GF and use cerberus.

If you have some megaelexirs and just use 2 characters: Equip 1 character with Magic, Defend and Item and the other with Defend, Magic and GF OR have both with Magic, Defend and Items and use the spells Double and Triple instead of cerberus.

If you don't have any megaelexirs: Equip 1 character with Magic, Defend and Item and the other with Defend, Magic and GF if you have X-potions and stuff. If you have no usefull items, then have both with Magic, Defend and GF.

Remember... the effect of Defend will wear off when you use another command. But as long as you use Defend and just standby, it won't lose its effect. Therefore... when defending against Terra Break, use Defend and then standby until terra Break has been used.

Good luck!

Edit: Oh, and for those who belive that Omega Weapon is harder than Ultima Weapon... check out this: http://www.eyesonff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53904 and read my LONG post!!!