I think I've figured out why Aeris annoyed me so much..she acts like a cheerleader,in pink! She reminds me of the girls that joined the cheerleading squad or the drill team and acted ever after like their brains had disappeared, regardless of their real intelligence.. At least in front of the boys anyway. :rolleyes: By the way, does anyone look at profiles anymore?..
maybe I should change my name to meowwl's a sitter not a pointer, or meowwl the 30 year old fangirl?
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I never really liked her, but in some ways her death was pretty sad. However, the fisrt time I played my characters were underleveled and I kept losing to jenova, so I had to watch it about at least 5 times. I eventually grew to enjoy it. I always liked Tifa better anyway. The music was good too.
The music definitely did add to the emotion...and about the third time through, it actually had me feeling a bit sorry for Aeris even though she was one of my less favorite characters. Without Aeris' Theme, I don't think the scene would have been half so sad, even to people whose favorite character is Aeris.
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Now that I think about it, your right! i don't think i would have found it sad at all without the music.
What is with the incredibly die hard Tifa fans? I just don't get it because I never saw her as much. She didn't have that much personality, well at least not any that you didn't need a microscope to find. I really just don't get it...and everytime they love Tifa, they must hate Aeris because that is the "law". I'm not too fond of Tifa, I just found her plain, but I don't hate her with a passion in the way that some people hate Aeris. Aeris is one of my favorite characters and I found her death sad, even though I saw that FMV before I even played the game. Everytime someone hates Aeris with a passion, I now just automatically assume that Tifa is their favorite character because that is usually the case. Whew! I got that off my chest! Sorry for ranting, but this has been building up for a while. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone and it's just my opinion. And just for the record, Tifa's boobs were demeaning to her character, especially with that skimpy outfit. Okay, I feel A LOT better now. Again, terribly sorry.
Why do you dislike Tifa and like Aerith? Why do I dislike Aerith and like Tifa? Because they're very different. People who like a character like Tifa dont typically like a character like Aerith, particularily with Aerith's rude treatment to Tifa (yes I know, she's 'holy', but I found her treatment of Tifa with the flirtation with Cloud to be downright cruel).
As for her 'breasts' being demeaning... why do her breasts have to come into play at all? What does that have to do with her character? I found her brimming with personality. She was kind, shy, and optimistic. She did her best to try and challenge Cloud's false memories without straight-out telling him he was wrong and possibly destroying his fragile psyche.
I dislike Aerith very much, but I dont hate her with a passion. The passionate hate usually roots from one thing: Cloud. Most supporters of the girls want their girl to be with Cloud, and that causes heads to butt.
Sorry, I just really needed to get that off my chest. Like I said, I don't hate Tifa, I just never cared for her. Actually, I probably wouldn't even have an opinion about her if not for her major fan base and the people who mindlessly bash Aeris because of her. I think some of her fans have influenced my opinion more so than she has (but you've been quite polite and I greatly respect that). I've always liked characters like Aeris and I'm probably one of the few people who actually liked both Cait Sith and Eiko. I never found Aeris to be rude, she really just wanted to get to know him because he reminded her of someone she once knew and she wasn't far off either since he thought he was Zack in a way. I thought it was a bit mean of Tifa to just act like Cloud had nothing wrong and never even hinted at it until his actual mind was at stake, but that's just me. And about her breasts...um, let's just say I don't like it when they make a character who's supposed to be as wonderful as Tifa and then make her appearance so...I don't know how exactly to describe it, but unfitting. Her appearance when she was younger was much more fitting for her character. I just have an over all problem with skimpy dressed characters, so don't mind me. That's just a weird thing I have issues with, probably because everyone I've known who's dressed that way has been a total slut and Tifa most certaintly isn't.Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
I understand, and I just felt the need to express my opinion as well.
Both sides of this fanbase get these things from the other. The Tifa/Aerith rivalry is extremely bitter and cruel.
As for her breasts.. well for one it's something Nomura likes to design, and also it's important to realize that breast size and clothing doesnt impact a person's character and kindness. I think her clothing has to do with her fighting style. Aerith, for example, could wear anything since she isnt really a fighter (and only uses a rod at that), but very physical fighters like Tifa and Yuffie need to wear tighter, less restrictive clothing.
And, as for Tifa not telling Cloud, I understand... but I respect Tifa's decision. I think if she had told Cloud at the beginning he would have either broken down or written her off, and it was important for her to stick close to him and guide his memories when she could, without forcing him.
Not to step into the landmine field that is the Aerith/Tifa rivalry (which, ironically, only exists among the two ladies' fans), but one thing I want to point out is that Tifa not telling Cloud the truth wasn't malicious. She explains to him why she didn't, and her reasons were caring:
Considering the weak state of Cloud's mind and the effects that were rendered unto him by JENOVA/Sephiroth telling him that his memories were illusions, she was more than likely correct in her assumption. Her simply telling him what happened is quite different than when she was within his mind and was able to guide him and show him.Tifa
"I've been hiding it for some time, afraid that if I told you...
something terrible might happen."
"But, I'm not going to hide anything anymore."
Tifa
"You weren't here. Cloud did not come to Nibelheim five years
ago."
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In this discussion, i am obviously a Tifa fan. Aeris always struck me as useless character, herpersonality was annoying, and the whole flirting thing got me too. Tifa was someone whose personality I liked a lot better, and she was a stronger character. And your not alone Terra*Aeris, I to am one of few who actually liked Cait Sith, however I didn't like Eiko. Quina should have eaten her. Or Aeris. More power to canniblism!
The reason why I hate her is because,
1: Weak as hell.
2:Limit's=suckzorz.
You can't say crap without the rap.
First, let me say...Squall of SeeD and TheAbominatrix are so smart.Not sucking up or anything, but you made your points far more eloquently than I could have. ^_^ Anyway, to add my two bits in...I didn't think Aeris' limit breaks really sucked. They were the only ones (that I know of--admittedly not an expert) geared specifically for aiding the party instead of damaging the enemy. They came in real handy when you were in a boss battle and all your characters had low HP/status ailments/whatever. That's not why I dislike her...no, it's mostly just her personality.
Tifa (who I could really relate to much more) came off as being more like someone I would readily befriend. Plus, even though she obviously liked Cloud, she backed off and pretty much let Aeris go after him, showing how selfless she truly was. Had the situation been reversed, I really don't think Aeris would have done the same, though I guess we'll never get a chance to know.
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aeris' lvl 4 limit was the greatest thing ever.
and as for phoenix down not reviving her, hows LIFE2?
Life 2 is the same thing. Life spells restore from KO. Your characters are not dead in battle. They are knocked out, incapcitated, swooning. If Life spells worked for actual death, no one would ever die in FF worlds. Life only restores from KO. Why they chose to name it Life is another thing entirely, but it does not bring anyone back from the dead. Just look at the description of the spell in the game.
And I'm pretty sure the name of the spell is Full-Life, not Life 2.
point taken,
the materias called full life i think, spells life2, but in the words of radiohead, i might be wrong
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