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    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...chool_shooting

    To me, it's very sad that we've come to almost expect and anticipate violence in schools, though not at this level.

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    *sigh* I remember when my history teacher talked about how back when he went to school in Michigan kids not only got the first day on hunting season off, they would actually take their rifles and ammunition to school to be stored in the principle's office. How times have changed. Its bad enough the the people had to die, now paranoia will be increased more and more (if that's possible). In other words if I say the word "die" at school I will more then likely be maced.
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    Indeed, there will certainly be a frenzy of paranoia, though I think its been that way since Columbine. Sure, it can be justified within reason, but it does get out of hand very quickly if not balanced with a dose of common sense.

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    I work for some people doing a psychological study of violent teenage criminals. The overall crime rate for high school aged people is at a 30 year low right now. My boss says that the "teenage crime epidemic" and "school safety epidemic" is entirely invented by the media, or rather by people's perception of the media. This is a non-issue. This is an example of something no one needs to hear about. People lack the perspective to handle or even understand this kind of news.

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    As Dr. Unne said, the amount of deaths country-wide has been decreasing over the years, even the Columbine year was much less than the deaths overall in many school years, actually by quite a large margin. Not to say that this wasn't horrific, of course.

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    This just pisses me off. Some idiot killed people in school, and because the media is exploiting it for money, people like me are going to get sh*t for this. I have another week of spring break. hopefully people have forgotten about this incident before I go back to school. I really just don't want to hear it.


    Unne - that information is really interesting. Im going to take your word for it an assume it's true, because it's good news. Im sick of the youth being labeled as violent and dangerous when that is so obviously untrue.

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    Hmm, that's fascinating Dr Unne. It would seem my statement at the top of this thread is based on what the media has made this out to be rather than the reality. Thanks for the insight as always!

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    Interesting, Unne... this must be a new one, because it goes against the general theme of results in this type of study. Could you give me a little bit more details? You know, such as regions studied, sample sources and quantities, and variables. I don't trust any study without examining the source behind it. Not that I don't believe you, but a study can show anything the creators want it to, and it's up to the public to stay informed on this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Unne
    I work for some people doing a psychological study of violent teenage criminals. The overall crime rate for high school aged people is at a 30 year low right now. My boss says that the "teenage crime epidemic" and "school safety epidemic" is entirely invented by the media, or rather by people's perception of the media. This is a non-issue. This is an example of something no one needs to hear about. People lack the perspective to handle or even understand this kind of news.
    Sensationalism sells. What else are we supposed to hear about, good things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Unne
    I work for some people doing a psychological study of violent teenage criminals. The overall crime rate for high school aged people is at a 30 year low right now. My boss says that the "teenage crime epidemic" and "school safety epidemic" is entirely invented by the media, or rather by people's perception of the media. This is a non-issue. This is an example of something no one needs to hear about. People lack the perspective to handle or even understand this kind of news.
    Barry Glassner, the author of Culture of Fear: Why Americans are Afraid of the Wrong Things (which was the basis for the documentary Bowling for Columbine) is a Professor of Sociology at my school and he gave us a lecture a few weeks ago on this very issue.

    Basically, while all the statistics show that school violence has been on a steady decline in the last few decades, the media jumps on these isolated incidents in order to claim that there is an epidemic of teenage violence.

    I do believe that the media makes waaaay too big a deal about this "epidemic" of school violence. BUT, I disagree with the idea that the media shouldn't report this at all.

    Of course we need to hear about these things and yes it is an issue. What the media needs to stop doing is misdirecting the public's attention to this idea of killer teenagers and instead focus on the real issues like gun control.

    The epidemic is a fabrication, but something is obviously wrong when a kid (who had access to THREE guns!) goes on a shooting rampage.

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    I think the media is most to blame for this. The kid was probably just copying what he saw on the news.

    But they'll probably try to blame Marilyn Manson. Again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by udsuna
    Could you give me a little bit more details?
    Nope, don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miriel
    What the media needs to stop doing is misdirecting the public's attention to this idea of killer teenagers and instead focus on the real issues like gun control.

    The epidemic is a fabrication, but something is obviously wrong when a kid (who had access to THREE guns!) goes on a shooting rampage.
    True, true. I can't belive it's so easy to get your hands on a gun in the states.

    That killer guy seemed to have alot of psychological... trouble. That's also very sad.

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    Okay. This is now the exception rather than the rule and it has been for quite some time. The media just sucks and has nothing better to do. They control the masses because the masses are widely uninformed about such things because it is the media's job to inform us. One of the many reasons I want to move out of this country.

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    That's all well and good, the media may make too much noise about such things, but honestly, that's not what this thread should be about. I understand school violence has decreased, but that doesn't make this instance any less appauling.

    I've never been to Red Lake, or any area around there, but I'm disgusted with the person who did this. The fact that he grinned and waved while doing this, is terrible.

    I'm sorry, but this is a horrible, horrible thing to happen anywhere, be it a school, a store, a bank, or whatnot. I hope the families of those who died find some form of comfort.

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