So how bout that PSP?

[Maxico]

ok first up there have been reports of dead pixles on the DS as well the only difference is that nitendo will replace it if there is one dead pixel while sony requires 2 or 3. Yes the PSP probably needs a case but then so did the GBA (mine got waaaaay scratched up).
About the price? I've seen PSP's on sale over the internet for £130. Doesn't seem like much of a biggie to me. T
The battery? Most laptops only last 3 hours (less if you're using WiFi). Its about what you can expect from a product with superior processing power. And are you really going to be playing for 10 hours solidly. If you really want to keep it on while your playing you can just put it on sleep mode and the loss of power is negliable.
The thing you said about the DS being able to do most of what a PSP can do neatly cancels out LionX's arguement that the extras put him off.

Now dont get me wrong. I have owned pretty much every nintendo handheld console there is (back from the old game and watch) but the GBA's had very flawed designs.

The GBA famously had no backlit screen making it pretty much impossible to play games out of direct light. Also forced me to cover up the speakers with my right hand while playing, muffling the noise. It also had no charger meaning that if I was playing at home I would have to use rechargable batterys that lasted around 5 hours (does that playtime sound familiar?)

When I got my GBA SP I was happy to find that most of these problems had been sorted out. But nintendo had to sneak something in and helpfuly neglected to put in the headphone jack I was so used to using after my hand covered up the speakers so much with my old GBA.

Looking back at my old gameboy and the gameboy pocket I inexplicably brought. I can see that the speaker is in that same arkward posistion.

Now Im not saying that the DS has any of these flaws. I wouldnt know as I've never used one but Im saying that nintendo havnt had the best track record when it comes to desing in my opinion.

[Dreddz]

SEE Maxico knows the truth

[Tidus Andronicus]

Yes, I have played to PSP... =P
Only thing better about it, is the graphics. =P And even those aren't as good as some people claim... "Oh its as good as a PS2!" HAH barely, its something just around the same as a PS1. The graphics are just real sharp! So on a little handheld screen, its not noticable.
I have experianced what the PSP is like... and even seeing that, I like the DS better.
So quit using that as a defence. I wouldn't be comparing the 2 systems, if I hadn't seen both...

[Daggers64]

^_^ I've had exposure to the PSP since my friend was able to import one. I've tried it... and like Tidus, I only see sharper graphics.

And the only game I thought was really cool on the PSP (that he had anyway) was Lumines.

I know what both systems can do, and I know where both systems have problems...

And if the DS has pixel troubles, they must only get them in very rare cases... and I commend Nintendo for fixing them so quickly!
Out of the 20 DS units I've seen, none had any dead pixels, not even the demo ones beat up in stores by children.
If my PSP got one dead pixel in the middle of the screen, and no more... I'd be pretty pissed that Sony wouldn't fix it!

[Dreddz]

OK you to have played it and you have your choice of the PSP and the DS. But still how can you say the DS is better. PSP can do all that the DS can and more. You lot are complaining about a bloody pixel !
My PSP aint had none of that trouble. Plus game wise the DS sucks. OMG its mario for the 50th time yay!!!
The only problem im having with the PSP is the battery life which is poor but im in a system now were I play it and just charge the battery again. I mean whos gonna play it for 5-6 hours. Also people say it only goes on for about 2 hrs which are lies. Played it for 3 and a half hrs last night.

[Tidus Andronicus]

We're not complaining about just one pixel.
We are just pointing out that the PSP has way more flaws than it should, for $250... and that Sony isn't doing much to fix the problems, because they use cheap parts, and then charge too much for them.

I'll admit, currently, the DS needs more good games. There are a few really interesting ones out right now... but the better ones arn't planed for a few months. Although in the next month, a couple of real nice ones are coming out. The DS has a lot of features, some of which are still not in use, but even so, will be in use soon. And on top of that, the DS can receive bios upgrades from games and internet that will expand its capabilities even further.
The features on the DS, like the wireless are even better than the PSP's because its a higher wireless standard, it can go damn far, and can chain distances.
Our whole point is that the DS can do more than the PSP can... and that the only thing the DS lacks is the graphics, but its not far behind in even that area.

Also, people might dissagree with me on this, but when I hold the PSP, it feels like I could twist it, and break it. Where as with the DS its nice and solid, and the only weak spot I can find, is the joint between the screens.
The fact that the DS has a touch screen, makes a lot of people unsure about how good the DS is. But the touch screen, in most cases is just another control option, cause you still have the normal buttons of a GB.

I'm gonna say, that your choice of handheld systems, really depends on what kind of gamer you are, as well.

[Dreddz]

Another feature for the PSP is that it can be a phone to. Bet the DS cant do that

[Tidus Andronicus]

Yes, actually the DS can! its got a microphone, and speakers... duh!

Nintendo is actually working on a voice chat system that will be in use for the full internet launch of the DS!
=P

And I'm sure, if they wanted to, they could easilly make a program that could 'dial' another friends DS up over the internet, like an internet phone. And if they did, it would all be part of their free online service.

You know, they could even do something like a head set for that too, they could use a device that either hookes into the charge outlet, or one of the card slots, that links to a headset thing to provide even better sound quality.
Its a nicely set up device, because all of the DS's features can be accessed from either the GBA slot or the DS slot. ^_^

[Dreddz]

your saying they will. But you dont know and I bet they wont. They would of told everyone by now

[Sephex]

your saying they will. But you dont know and I bet they wont. They would of told everyone by now

They did. Do your research.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/594/594933p1.html

[Maxico]

Look this has gone way to far. I was only defending the psp by responding to the points that other brought up but this has just gotten silly. Look I want to get a PSP, they want to (or have) a DS. Nothing is going to change that. To be honest its not the hardware you play it on its the games you play on it and I just prefere the line up on sonys console. No amount of "omg DS can do this and PSP can do that" is going to change that. Both systems have their own merits and both look very nice. Theres no need to continue sniping at each other because we want to buy something that they dont.

Just... shut up...

[Dreddz]

Im sorry :(

Sorry Sepex
Sorry Tidus Andronicus
Sorry Daggers64

[RedCydranth]

For my lifestyle and needs the PSP is way better than the DS IMHO.

I never did like the 2 screen idea.

[Dreddz]

Sorry *Sephex* mispellt your name

Maxico had a food point. To me neither systems are bad. There just different. And I just happen to prefer the PSP. And I prefer the line up of games for the PSP. Not really into mario and yoshi etc
But the DS is a goos machine and if you like Nintendos line up and cast Im not stopping you in getting one :)

[Sephex]

Im sorry

Sorry Sepex
Sorry Tidus Andronicus
Sorry Daggers64

No dude, I wasn't angry or anything. I was just showing you (and anyone else interested) proff that the DS had online plans.

EDIT: Just for the record, even though I own a DS, I am not singling out the PSP. The PSP is okay, but I already stated why I will not buy one myself as of now.