I did state that many murders were spur of the moment, did I not?

There is nothing you can realy do about those, so I simply ignore that when discusing punishment.. won't matter because it is unmeditated.

Also my statistics are for when prisons FIRST came out in Europe in the oh... 1800's... did I say that in my last post, I thought I did.. ah well maybe not and I am too lazy to check at this time.. want to go out for a bike ride.

Prisons being harsh would mean people wouldn't do crime, not because they think about it in the normal sense, but rather they would just intuitively avoid doing something to land them there... obviousally there would be exceptions. I can tell you right now it woud be so easy for me to steal from our local carry-out.. not to mention Good-Boy dustin wouldn't be suspect. But the thought doesnt' cross my mind unless I purposely point my mind in that direction. On further analysis I have found that I am afraid of being caught... My dad would make my life a living hell.. and my mother.. lets not go there. Not to mention the trouble I would get into wiht the law.. But you see these thoughts, I don't think them, my subconsious handles that and surpresses such thoughts.

So tougher prisons.. not so tough as to be terribly cruel.. but worse then the life, of a person in poverty, would have some effect.

Also I understand we don't want to hang innocent people, that remark was simple truth though. Swift executions have a larger deterence on crime, then ones where you have a fair chance to get off, or at least to prolong your life to a ripe age. Now unless tech gets to the point where wrong convictions are not present or are very, very, very few, we can't do swift executions due to the fact that we MAKE mistakes... or at least more then I would like.