Just got a new computer...having a bit of a problem though
I just got a new computer by this company CPU Builders. Whatever,
it was cheap. I just threw my 80 gig hd from my old computer into it as
the slave but for some reason when I try to install it (I'm using the OS
that came with the computer, by the way, it's CPU Builders Linux, I
think it's a Redhat based version of Linux), it seems to only recognize
the first partition on the harddrive. Anyone know anything about Linux,
harddrives, or partitions who could give me a hand? :\
Thanks
.opt
sorry i know nothing of computers and i don't think many other people here do either...sorry...
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I do not know if you have done this yet, but you must set up the HD to be a slave. This is usually done through the PIN settings. If this is the problem you will have to look up your particular hard drive to get the neccesary help. Be warned though that the sites aren't always easy to understand.
Also the way it is hooked into the computer matters as well, which means you need to know how your particular motherboard works... although this is usually not a major issue.
As for it being a problem with linux itself... I have never had any problem once the HD is set right.
It is hard for me to explain it without being there to access it myself.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
Recognise the first partition of which hard drive? If it can see anything on a hard drive, you can assume it's set up correctly phyically inside the computer.
When you install Redhat, you can repartition the drive during installation anyway - it should be self-explanatory during setup.
The problem is more you're not really being very specific, making it kind of hard to help you
Thanks for the replies, and I'll try to be as specific as possible without being
completely boring. The drives are set up correctly physically, with the HD which came
with the computer as the master, and my old HD as the slave. The old HD is a
Western Digital, by the way. The master drive (the one that came with the computer)
has no partitions since I didn't install Linux, it came with it (one of the reasons the
computer was so cheap). My old HD has 3 partitions on it, when I attached it and
set everything up, it recognized that the physical drive was there, but I guess it
didn't recognize that it was a number of partitions, so it thinks the entire harddrive
is 30 gigs, when in fact it's 80. The first 30 gigs I used to store music, the other
partitions were for other storage and my XP. It doesn't see these partitions though,
only the one with the music on it.
.opt
Do you now what format your old partitions are at?
I believe XP installs NTFS as it's default and I know older versions of windows wont' see such partitions, and I have heard of Linux having similar problems unless you set it up properly.
If this is the case I will look to see how to set up linux properly.. I have a few freinds who use linux alot, although I personally have little experience with it.
edit-
here you go see if this helps you
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ntfs.html#3.5
Last edited by ShunNakamura; 03-26-2005 at 07:37 AM.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
I'd get hold of the latest version of Redhat then (if you insist on using Redhat - I personally wouldn't ever use it on my computers. I'd go with Gentoo instead, but unless you're willing to do a <i>lot</i> of learning in a short period of time and capable of it, it's not a linux I recommend to someone new to it all). I'm not sure why it's not seeing the partitions - they should still show up as a unknown partitions since they'll be in the partition table anyway. Newer versions of linux have no problems reading them - it's only writing that's still a problem, though that's partially overcome.
How large is the master drive? Also, when you said it saw 30 GB, was that referring to the partition it could see, or the entire disk (it should give both numbers anyway)? Also, is it roughly 30 GB, or is it more like 32 GB? Since I think there's a 32 GB limit with certain BIOSes, preventing them seeing more than that much of the hard disk. If this is the case, you're looking at flashing your BIOS. Alternatively, you might have set the clip jumper on the drive by mistake, clipping it to 32 GB - try double checking the jumpers on the disk too (it should be in the same place where you set it to master/slave).
EDIT: This thread might be of interest too
Actually the partitions were made when I installed Windows on the harddrive, so
they are the wrong format. I didn't even think of that. Thanks for the link...I'm
going to read it right after I reply here.
The reason this harddrive has partitions is because of that BIOS 32gig max, actually.
I installed this harddrive on an old computer where I used it for a while, until I got
this new computer. The harddrive itself is 80gb but the first and second partitions are
both 30gb. This is all that my Linux OS sees. But actually, there's something strange.
I had Windows XP on the second partition of my harddrive and when I start up it
brings up Windows in the OS choices menu, so the BIOS itself is recognizing the
other partitions (unless maybe there's a boot record on the first partition or something)
but Linux isn't. I'm not using Redhat though, it's the OS that came with the computer,
CPU Builders Linux. I figure I'll switch to a different version of Linux and probably
install some version of Windows on another partition or something eventually, but
for now I'd like to get stuff set up so that I'll still have some idea of what's going on
when I do switch to another version. I'm also somewhat hesitant to start formatting
and installing new OSes because that's how I killed my previous computer, and
it's why I have this new one. Thanks again, though. I'll check out both of those
articles and see if they help.
.opt
EDIT: Aha!
So it does recognize that the other partitions exist...Code:fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 4799 38547936 83 Linux /dev/hda2 4800 4864 522112+ 82 Linux swap Disk /dev/hdb: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 3824 30716248+ c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/hdb2 3825 9729 47431912+ f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hdb5 3825 7648 30716248+ b Win95 FAT32 /dev/hdb6 7649 9729 16715601 b Win95 FAT32
Last edited by Optium; 03-26-2005 at 02:11 PM.
Doesn't matter if Windows makes the partitions, Linux can still read them, since the partition table is standard. Unless you use dynamic disks in Win2K/XP, but even then, compile the linux kernel with appropriate support, and it can read those too.
The OS choices menu in Windows is defined by a text file on the HD, and has nothing to do with the BIOS.
You don't seem to be using any NTFS so I am seriousally starting to get stumped by this... I'll do some more searching and see what I come up with.
why couldn't it be the NTFS that is the problem *gumbles*
well lets try this then it may help a bit.
this may help a bit since it seems a large chunk of space is on a Extended LBA partition. So I don't think it would hurt to try this and see what happens.Originally Posted by http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html
Hmm.. that site actually has a fair bit of info. You said you think that CPU builder's linux is based off of redhat right? well looks like redhat isn't a real good linux at all, at least it seems to need more troubleshooting.
Last edited by ShunNakamura; 03-26-2005 at 03:31 PM.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
Yeah, never mind that Redhat is the choice of linux for most businesses that go for linux for workstations, especially in the States. And why the heck are you linking to patches for 2.0.* kernels? They're ancient, and there should be no reason for needing to use a kernel that old for the past many years now.
hmm... well I didn't realize that they were that ancient.. .should have payed more intention. But wowzers, that is anceint.. bah... I realy over looked something.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
I assume you don't really use linux much, since the kernel's up to 2.6 now
nope not at all.
my dad tried to coax me into installing Red Hat 6 or something similar last year... I did, but didn't like it much.. at the time I only wanted to get my comp running again.. taht and red hat wasn't recognizing my internet at all.. and.. that is kinda important to me.
I don't think I particually like red hat... although I still dislike windows more... I really dislike windows. But it is what I am used to, and I am actually fairly good at solving windows problems, so *shrug*. What I really like are the old Macs, such as the Macintosh LC III... you know how badly I can abuse that thing and still have it work none the worse for wear?!
Anyways, yeah, linux is not very common to me. No one I know uses it as thier Main booter, although they may use it in a dual-boot, and I personally couldn't get it to work right, not internet, and it wouldn't dual-boot wiht 2k for me.. although I know it can, I just missed something.. maybe I should try linux again, since it is becoming more popular.
BTW, if I do attempt linux again, which would you recomend. You said you like Gentoo, but it takes a lot of learning.. So I guess my question is, how MUCH learning I usually am good but not always.
Last edited by ShunNakamura; 03-26-2005 at 04:37 PM.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
So what exactly is not detecting the partitions? Just the installer?
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