Vincent Immortal?

[Lenna]

lol If that was the case then square have really REALLY got to put their image expectations up. An over dramatic character, with immortal qualities, they have to have some sort of moral behind it.

[Drift]

he blew his cover in nibelhelm so he had 2 run away frm Shinra so he locked himself up in the coffin bt cloud n co found him

[Lenna]

We know that's not true lolol. Vincent was placed there in that coffin by Hojo if I recall. After Hojo conducted his experiments. Scary thought really.. How did Vincent manage to survive without Water or food for 30 years? :P

[Drift]

he ate the rats that managed to knaw their way into the coffin

[Lenna]

How could he do that if he was asleep?? :P You did know he was asleep right lol?

Vincent Sleeping Beauty!

Cloud...... = Kiss of life !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH... omg omg omg.. Ewwwww

Good job it wasn't Reno mmmm <3 <3 <3

[Drift]

lol well hes gota wake up sumtime in the period of 30 yrs aint he??? mebbe cloud caught him on his nap afta having a nice triple rat sandwich?

[Lenna]

lol Nice idea's but I highly doubt it :P

[Drift]

we all like to think up alternate thoeries makes it more interesting then

[Lenna]

I know. I think its fun to see what other people think. It gets a little out of hand when people moan about it tho

[Squall of SeeD]

How could he do that if he was asleep?? :P You did know he was asleep right lol?

Vincent Sleeping Beauty!

Cloud...... = Kiss of life !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGH... omg omg omg.. Ewwwww

Good job it wasn't Reno mmmm <3 <3 <3

Vincent couldn't have been sleeping too deeply if someone just walking into the room would wake him up. The razing of Nibelheim 5 years before should have done so, as well, I would think.

[Drift]

dats cz dey hav no fun...i wudnt have ne fun if i woz locked up in a coffin for 30 yrs by sum stupid scientist dude

[Lenna]

Vincent couldn't have been sleeping too deeply if someone just walking into the room would wake him up. The razing of Nibelheim 5 years before should have done so, as well, I would think.

I think Square intended for him to wake up from a "long sleep".

Vincent: Hmph... a nightmare...? My long sleep has given me time to
atone.

Also, I'd think that if Vincent had the opportunity to wake, he would have left the Shinra Mansion when he had the chance, as they were attempting to escape according to the fingernail scratchings on the beaker in the Library, also in the reports of their experimentation.

I believe it was Square's intention to make it so he was asleep for a long time, sort of like an eternal slumber or something. I could be wrong, but yet it's only a theory.

Also it indicates in Vincent's questioning to Cloud after Cloud explains his story, makes it seem like he was unaware of any activity. Fire can be smelt and noticed from a distance, and seeing as the town was in flames, he would hardly have not noticed it if he was awake.

[Nova Briar]

How did Vincent manage to survive without Water or food for 30 years? :P

Good question. To the best of my knowledge, the game never really tells you if Vincent ever ate or drank during his 30 year stay in the Nibelheim mansion. Perhaps that's another effect that Hojo's experimentation had on Vincent...?

[Squall of SeeD]

Also, I'd think that if Vincent had the opportunity to wake, he would have left the Shinra Mansion when he had the chance, as they were attempting to escape according to the fingernail scratchings on the beaker in the Library, also in the reports of their experimentation.

(SPOILER)I don't believe he would have left if he just could have. He'll even stay there if you don't talk to him again after telling him about Sephiroth and will ask you to leave after you speak with him the first time. The dialogue with him suggests that he viewed staying there and sleeping as his punishment:

(SPOILER)Vincent
"There was no way to cancel the experiment."
"I couldn't stop her."
"That was my sin."
"I let the one I loved, the one I respected most, face the worst."

Tifa
"So the punishment was sleep? That's weird."

(SPOILER)By the way, the scratches in those large cylinders were made by Cloud and Zack, not Vincent.

As far as it goes, if he were able to wake up before they came there, there's not really anything that could have held him there. A wooden door wouldn't have stood up to Galian Beast, I imagine, nor would its lock have likely held up under a few gunshots. It all depends on whether or not one believes Cloud woke him from a sleep he couldn't escape on his own, I suppose, but considering that Cloud didn't really do anything but walk around the room, there's little reason to believe it was the case in my opinion.

In all honesty, I don't believe Vincent was in that room for thirty years, but only five. Vincent was still wearing his Turk outfit after Hojo's experimentation was complete (refer to the flashback seen in Lucrecia's cave), and Hojo was nowhere around. For that matter, with the enhanced abilities Vincent should have had at that time, I imagine he would have tore Hojo apart on sight before willingly allowing him to place him in that room.

Further, I doubt Hojo gave Vincent that red and black outfit. The gauntlet in particular makes me doubt this, as the gauntlet's design suggests it would not only function as an offensive weapon with those claws, but the curved plating on the side would allow it to also function as armor to deflect attacks. For that matter, I can't imagine Vincent agreeing to wear anything given to him by Hojo.

I personally believe he wasn't placed in that room until five after Sephiroth's massacre in Nibelheim when Hojo arrived and was having Shin-Ra soldiers round up the survivors of the massacre for experimentation. Perhaps Vincent attempted to stop them and was then incapacitated. That would go along with Hojo's note concerning Vincent saying that he wouldn't allow anyone to interfere in his research, "not even that one from the Turks." Though I suppose that the argument could be made that the words as easily fit when Hojo shot him and experimented on him thirty years before.

Anyway, that's just my theory. It's not all that strongly supported by the game, but it does explain things like why Vincent was in that room and wearing that outfit when he woke up thirty years before wearing his Turk outfit and with Hojo nowhere in sight.

[Lenna]

Yup Very true. I still think that Vincent's image could be passed off as vampiric tho me = <3 Vampires. Well not literally, but I find the whole concept of them interesting and very incredibly strange. I am one of those who likes to read books, and my main books that I love are Silence of the lambs, Bram Stoker's Dracula and Mary Shelly's Frankenstein, these books are my high priority and due to the amount of times I read Dracula I find the whole idea of them powerful and creative. Especially how they are portrayed in many films and tv programs. Vincent's gloom and unhuman like presence surely passes on some vampiric similarities. Again only a theory, but a valid point is it not?