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    OK.. I might have just been a little slow on this but... is Vincent immortal?????? Because in Advent Children (offical site) it says Vincent is still 27, even though it's been two years since the game.. So did like all that mako energy do something to him....? Also, if he is immortal, can he be killed? I've played through FFVII 4 times but still can't figure it out!

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    Yes, he's immortal. However, that only means that he's immortal in the sense that he doesn't age but isn't invincible. He can be killed.

    (SPOILER)As for why, we don't know that Mako or JENOVA Cells were imbued into his body. The game doesn't tell us. All we know is that he died when he was shot by Hojo and that he was resurrected through Hojo's experimentation, with him not aging since.
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    Oh.. it would be cooler if he coulnd't be killed... but what was it that made him immortal?? (still in question)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GibsonGoth131
    Oh.. it would be cooler if he coulnd't be killed... but what was it that made him immortal?? (still in question)
    Highlight the part of my Post above marked "Spoiler." Basically, we don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GibsonGoth131
    OK.. I might have just been a little slow on this but... is Vincent immortal?????? Because in Advent Children (offical site) it says Vincent is still 27, even though it's been two years since the game.. So did like all that mako energy do something to him....? Also, if he is immortal, can he be killed? I've played through FFVII 4 times but still can't figure it out!
    You note that he's 27 in the original game. That means that he hadn't aged in 30 or so years prior to the game, not just in the two years between the game and AC. Vincent was an adult (and a member of the Turks) well before Sephiroth was even born. I would speculate the Vincent's immortality is at least partially due to the Jenova cells. It was because of the Jenova that Lucrecia could not die easily.

    Vincent: Lucrecia... You're alive...

    Lucrecia: I wanted to disappear... I couldn't be with anyone... I wanted to
    die... But the Jenova inside me wouldn't let me die...
    It's unlikely that this is the sole cause, however, since many other people were injected with Jenova, and showed nothing resembling a stop to the aging process. Since Vincent was killed and resurrected by Hojo, however, his physiology is certainly unusual enough that immortality requires no great stretch of the imagination.

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    Vincent's story is rather complicating but good never the less.
    Vincent was a former turk as told who fell in love with a specimen from Shinra. He tried to stop her from going through the process that she was going through and fought with hojo. Supposedly Hojo shot him in the arm at great force damaging his arm completely. So in theory Vincent had the same surgery as Barret, but with a Metal Claw instead. After Hojo experiments on him, he puts Vincent to sleep. And it's suspected to be over 30 years. (as Sephiroth is 35 during the game). But the experiments which Hojo did on Vincent has been a theory to have created his "Immortality" and his ability to change into demons and monsters as his limit breaks.

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    Cloud had Jenova cells he aged

    it must have been something different to what that mad scientist must have done

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlxRenoxlx
    Supposedly Hojo shot him in the arm at great force damaging his arm completely. So in theory Vincent had the same surgery as Barret, but with a Metal Claw instead.
    Hojo shot him full on in the chest and Vincent died. I imagine that -- as a Turk -- Vincent would have had a higher resistance to pain and mortality than taking a shot in the arm and passing out or dying.

    As for the claw, it looks like nothing more than a gauntlet, especially in the Dirge of Cerberus scans where the metal grafted onto what appears to be black leather is more pronounced.
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    it probably just covers his arm as it maybe distorted from the experimentations

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    I think immortals a bad way of putting it. I think saying he doesnt age gives a better idea.

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    but unaging is part of immortality

    vincent is semi immortal
    Quasi immortal
    the diet coke of Immortal
    one calorie of immortal
    just not immortal enough to be immortal

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    Poor Vinnie!Well...Here's what I think.

    (SPOILER)Maybe Vincent's demons did it.Y'know,the limit break ones.Hojo also could've done something else that no one's metioned/thought of yet.

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    Even if he doesn't physically age, he will still age from a technical standpoint. Even if no change occurs, after a year passes, you are one year older. Period. Im not sure why he doesn't age. Doesn't make much sense to me.

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    Me neither. I mean, He does have a birthday. But he still looks as he did when he was 27, that doesn't mean... he IS 27. 30 year's later, he's 57 technically I guess. Just he doesn't look it. I mean. Look at Red XIII he was 48 years old yet he was still mentally a 16 year old. (SPOILER) "Bugenhagen: Ho Ho Hoooo. Nanaki's tribe has incredible longevity. So
    you see his 48 years would only be equivalent to say that of a 15 or 16
    years old in human reckoning."


    I believe that Vincent's lack of aging, could possibly be to resemble a vampire. He's in a coffin and basically looks asif he holds darkness within his heart. Cold. His demon limit breaks.

    If anyone's ever been interested in the theory of vampires they'd know that vampires dont age a day. They live a long eternal life, look the same, and their only flaw is they have to drink blood. I think that Vincent characteristics resemble vampires in general, to give him a more scary, yet cold look about himself.
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    i bet vincents jst an actor dats over dramatic and wears to much make up thats why he looks immortal bt dats jst me
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