Photo ID required to vote?

[Masamune·1600]

Down with the Electoral College!


Seriously, though, this is a complex issue, and should be considered as such. Ultimately, though, my post would essentially be restating the points eestlinc has already made. Such a law would prove to affect minorites and the poor much more than other demographics, and one can't help but speculate that, on some level, the would-be law is intended to accomplish this.

Ultimately, this law would compromise a number of ideals that I hold. Voting is not an activity that should be restricted to any elite, and doing so is at once unethical and terrifying. Voter fraud is a terrible thing, but it's unrealistic to think that this action would fully eliminate it.

In the end, we're faced with a far greater question than whether or not this would add to the precision of the vote. If we choose to follow such actions that restrict the rights and liberties of others, we compromise the very foundations of democracy that voting is meant to help express. I fully support measures to create a less fraudulent, more efficient voting system, but cannot support an attempt that diminishes something far more important.

[DarkLadyNyara]

Sorry. Call me a bastard. But if you got more money from the government than you pait to it in taxes, you should not be allowed to have a say in the decision-making process.

Alright, fine. You're a bastard. Now go look up the word "democracy".

[Agent Proto]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b30c0535a05.htm

"MYTH: Illegal aliens don't affect politics because they can't vote.

TRUTH: Just by being counted in the census, illegals give political power to special groups. Many illegals fraudulently vote anyway and there is strong evidence that some key elections have been upset by illegal voters. Politicians represent the "people" even if those people are illegal aliens. Since the number of representatives in congress is fixed, any increase in population in California, for example, due to illegal immigration will require more representation for that group while taking away representation from people in other states. Most politicians that represent areas of large illegal population, vote in the interest of illegal aliens since they are the ones they represent. On the state level, it is clear that politicians like Governor Davis, California Speaker of the House Antonio Villaraigosa, California Senator Hilda Solis, California Assemblyman Gilbert A. Cedillo, etc., all want laws changed in the interest of illegal aliens."

[eestlinc]

The Free Republic is a strongly right-wing website so they tend to present information that supports their own positions. Not that this is wrong, but it is good to know the nature of the source.

[Agent Proto]

This is where I got the actual news source: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...identification

[Sasquatch]

Actually, America is much more of a Republic than it is a Democracy. And what's so bad about not wanting to let people like that vote? It's the same thing with illegal aliens--

There were pamphlets handed out everywhere, not just to minorities. And if somebody doesn't know which day to vote on, that's good, becaues they're too damn stupid to vote anyway. It's like not knowing which hole to punch out when there's an arrow pointing directly to it.

You call it "showing compassion"? Ah. Mostly I hear tactics like that referred to as "vote-buying". I figured showing compassion would be helping them get jobs for themselves, letting them keep the money they work for...but hey, different strokes for different folks, right?

I do agree with you though, that just because certain politicians support it, or certain supporters carry it out, doesn't mean that the entire Democratic or Republican parties are involved, or even know about it.

[DarkLadyNyara]

"MYTH: Illegal aliens don't affect politics because they can't vote.
TRUTH: Just by being counted in the census, illegals give political power to special groups. Many illegals fraudulently vote anyway and there is strong evidence that some key elections have been upset by illegal voters. Politicians represent the "people" even if those people are illegal aliens. Since the number of representatives in congress is fixed, any increase in population in California, for example, due to illegal immigration will require more representation for that group while taking away representation from people in other states. Most politicians that represent areas of large illegal population, vote in the interest of illegal aliens since they are the ones they represent. On the state level, it is clear that politicians like Governor Davis, California Speaker of the House Antonio Villaraigosa, California Senator Hilda Solis, California Assemblyman Gilbert A. Cedillo, etc., all want laws changed in the interest of illegal aliens."

True. One thing people don't seem to notice is the word illeagal. :rolleyes2