xD do i have to do anything else?
xD do i have to do anything else?
I don't think so. Your little comments here and there are amusing me.
I made Raist want to drink bleach. I am pleased with me.
good. i'm going to bed. although I will note people are starting to speculate on the april fools nature of all this, but whatever.
They have been. But that's inevitable, so meh. G'night, eest.
goodnight
I will say that teh sheer length and scope of all this seems a bit too much to be actually planned as a prank, and even if people know it is, it will still be pretty impressive.
Arguing with Raist is fun. I keep having to pull back though, just to be sure he stays good and pissed. xD
I'm pro-Kishi in all of this.
God. Start breaking out with the "We made the rules, we can change the rules at our pleasing. You guys have to live with that." statement! You know they love it!
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
That one's not my style, and I've argued against it before. That's more your thing, BooBle. :F
Raist seems ready to move the argument from his LJ to Feedback, so here's our LJ convo for those who can't see the post in his LJ. I don't remeber the title... It's the one with my name in it.
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Can I post this in the other thread?
[q]Man, you guys are crazy. And I thought the thread in Staff got fast posts. Craaaaaaaaaaaazy.
I'm not getting too heavily involved because it seems that everyone that does is losing their faith in humanity or something, and getting quoted in and out of context, and this and that and blah. I for one support Shlup in this matter and I think that you guys should really give the girl a break. Well, okay, she's making some stupid responses (sorry, Shlup, it's trueMaybe YOU need to get off the 'net and relax and let them calm down xD), but she's still made a decision and sometimes it's not the one that everyone favours, but is the one that is best for EoFF in the long run.
You all know I love EoFF to bits. I live this place. In the over-four-years that I've been here, Kishi has been one of the shining figures, and despite me not seeing eye to eye with him at all points, I figure that, hey, he made one mistake. Just one, in over four years. One lapse of judgement - and only minor, because the image was controversial. You just have to keep in mind what's best for EoFF in the long run. If there is anything bad that comes of this, it's the fault of the people who throw a fit over something they shouldn't have thrown a fit about. You guys have to trust us to make that good a decision. Have we ever let you down in the past in any big way? I can't think of a time.
I love Leeza and I love Matty to death. However it's their choice to step down and I saw it coming for a long time anyway. Leeza has been constantly talked about behind her back for a long time and despite what anyone says, even herself, I think that's the #1 reason for her stepping down. This just happened to be a good time, or something. As for Matty, well, he's stepped down before, but time is a healer, I hope, as with almost every other Staffer that has stepped down in disgust, I trust he'll come right in the end. It's notable that this isn't the first time the staff have broken up on a decision, it's just the first time that you guys have been around in a media-like way to see it happen and hear about why.
So, you have choice number one - accept it, let it go, work your way back towards good feelings and cuddles and love everyone. Choice number two, make a big fuss over one member that doesn't really have anything to do with YOUR EoFF experience in any way whatsoever, and only make things worse for yourself and everyone else. I know it's not always what you want to hear, but sometimes you have to accept things and move along. I've had to do this on many, many occasions. Anyone who has been on EoFF's staff for quite some time will know that this
This really does feel like a media thing. Raistlin is being the media. We've had World War I & II at EoFF but you guys didn't even know about it. Now we're having a media-watched war and suddenly everyone is making a big deal. This stuff does happen at EoFF. The only mistake that anyone has made is letting the public know about it. Usually we're a lot better than that. And I'm sorry for that much. There have been 'wars' at EoFF with more 'casualties' (including quite possibly my best friend on Staff who has only made 2-5 posts since that date many years ago). It's very, very, very hard for people, and it can bring me to huge stress and can put staffers into a temporary state of depression at times - or maybe I'm alone in that area, I don't know. But yeah. It is hard. Now you're actually seeing what happens, and you don't like it. Well, do you think we're enjoying all of this? We aren't. We'd rather everyone would just settle down. Feedback has become a media center and I hate it. I liked it better when the only things that people knew about when it comes to what goes on in Staff is what we told them. And when people who stepped down never said a thing about why. They don't have to like the rules but they respected them. That includes the rule that we can do whatever we want.
Please, guys, don't take this too far. I wonder if World War I was to re-occur in a time with modern media if they would have considered the whole thing to be brutal and for Winston Churchil to be slated for his approach to the war. Media sucks. Sorry, I'm getting more into a personal gripe about this now.
Also, I'm not going to respond to all the IMs and PMs about this. I'm having a beautiful time away from EoFF in certain aspects of my life and I refuse to let this ruin it. EoFF, as I have said earlier in this post, does have it's troubles and luckily we're usually very good at hiding them - if Big D hadn't posted, if nobody oustide Staff ever knew about this, nobody would have made a big deal (no Big D-eal pun intended
For what it's worth, I've always - always - been a very anti-ban kind of guy. If I get my way once in all of it, then I'm happy. Let it be this once.[/q]
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
That's a good post. *sexes*
yes, very good. I think my comment about Shlup as Wesly is better, though.
smurfer.
WesM 118: Hey
WesM 118: What the hell's going on, man? Yams left me and I've been in the dark. ;_;
DanieLoony: Hahaha, I'm so surprised, I expected 50 IMs when I came off away and got none until now. As I said last time, I'm not talking about the whole ordeal much because it's like... people blowing stuff out of proportion everywhere and I'm not comfortable with the idea of getting quoted left right and center like everyone on staff is.
DanieLoony: I love EoFF more than anyone and I'm still pro-Kishi.
WesM 118: Can you give me any other reason besides "he's Kishi?"
DanieLoony: Shlup's said all that needs to be said (and more, heh). If I give you an answer, I know you're going to quote it as a part of your agenda so I will not.
WesM 118: Part of my agenda? My agenda is EoFF, not having all my friends at EoFF.
WesM 118: And I'll take your reply as a rather emphatic "no."
WesM 118: Dammit, Daniel, what happened to "I'd ban my best friend if he broke the rules"?
DanieLoony: Why can't people talk about something else these days. :-( I don't WANNA talk about this. I'm bored to death of it.
WesM 118: If you actually cared about it, you'd be willing to discuss it. Didn't you lecture FG once about that?
WesM 118: You know it's wrong Daniel.
WesM 118: C'mon, man, you KNOW I'm right, and you KNOW what the member response will be once they see the image - especially if they see it alongside the images Peter and Linus got banned for.
WesM 118: "There seriously needs to be a clarification on the rules regarding posting inappropriate images. And also I think there needs to be a list of those who have "importance" and "status", so we know who can get away with anything." - Psychotic. How can you argue with that?
WesM 118: Dammit, talk to me. You can't just close your eyes and hope this will go away.
DanieLoony: I'm typing out a post and I told you, I'm trying to stay out of this, I'm having the most incredible time in my life in another aspect of my life and I don't want this to ruin that. I will however make a post or two along the way.
WesM 118: Well, I'm going to bed. Either way - you have to think of the consequences of this decision. Look at the outrage in the Feedback thread! Once they see the image next to other images that other member were banned for, what will they think?
DanieLoony: Maybe you shouldn't show the image. :P
WesM 118: Don't be all talk, Daniel. You know he should be banned. Don't make me lose faith in the last person I trust on Staff.
WesM 118: If the staff believes it's acceptable, why not show it? Why not plaster it all over EoFF?
DanieLoony: You can always trust me. You know that much. Maybe not agree, but you can trust. You can trust a lot of us.
DanieLoony: We never said it was acceptable, just not bannable in Kishi's case.
WesM 118: And you know that's horribly, horribly wrong. Please, tell me what happened to "I'd ban my best friend if he broke the rules?"
WesM 118: If it's bannable in one case, it should be bannable in others. I'd expect to be banned if I posted Peter's snow penis. I would expect you to be banned if you posted Linus's breast-pic.
WesM 118: And, FYI, if you didn't get my PM: I PMed Cid. I don't know how else to get up with him. Shlup's the only complaint, due to "blatant lack of restraint and objectivity" in numerous cases. Yes, I cited the Kane sig incident.
WesM 118: Now you need to make a decision for EoFF. Not for you, not for the members, not for me. For EoFF, based on the rules Cid made - not your own wants. I'm off to bed.
WesM 118 signed off at 08:31:30.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
yea man, wtf is up with that? ban your own mother my ass! you are such a smurfing hypocrite Daniel! I hate you.
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