Party of Four

[RedCydranth]

Lulu doesn't have access to Ultima. Ultima can only be reached by using several Level 4 Key Spheres, which clearly exceeds the limitations imposed by the original post.

As the author of the original post, I shall clarify this. If Ultima is located in Lulu's section of the grid (cant remember ATM) then she can have it in this scenario.

Some of you seem to be missing my point of this thread. In a level playing field which I'm trying so hard to create, equipmental benefits and equipping certain weapons is NOT what I wanted. The party of 4 I'm asking for are bare bones no equipment. Only in FF7s case am I allowing minimal materia usage. Even that is being abused. Its really hard to level the field so that everyone in FF is virtually equal, But I'm trying.

Locke (FFVI). I need a Thief. Might as well take one who can abuse the 9999 x 8 trick (which doesn't break our rules here, since it is multiple max hits, rather than one over-hit, so to speak. Also, it can be done without Illumina, leaving it free for Terra).

This is the paragraph Im questioning most, along with Terras and the second party. I'm trying to place all the FF characters in one "arena" soto speak. Thus equipment isn't really game specific. I'd prefer if Equipment wasn't mentioned.

I feel that overly abusive items/materia should be disallowed. The materia abuse shown in that prior post is what im trying to avoid.