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    I thought Endless was posting under that group?

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    WesM 118: "I thought Endless was posting under that group?" - Yams
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    I don't like the idea of temp bans. No eoeo is fine because some people don't realize the stricter rules in those forums at first. We tend to give a lot of warnings before a non porn ban, so if you still screw up despite those then you don't deserve to come back here. As for porn, you are always free to pm a moderator with the image you want to post so that we can review it first. We're pretty clear that this is a sensitive issue, so there's no reason to take the images you post lightly.

    Proto, why would you only 'accept' Cid's final word on the temp ban idea? We're the ones who would have to impliment and keep track of it. I don't think he checks Feedback much, so if you want his views you should probably pm him.

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    Hm... You're right, I will accept what the staff decides (likely no temp-bans). However, I won't be completely satisfied, because I would like to hear Cid's view on this, whether straight from his post, or by someone else he had talked to, and if he agrees with the rest of staff, I'll leave it as is.

    Edit; Honestly, I would like to see temp-bans be put to use here, in some way or another. I don't want to see prominent members get banned permanently by a mistake, or see members get warned gajillion times before officially getting banned.

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    I don't want to see prominent members get banned permanently by a mistake, or see members get warned gajillion times before officially getting banned.
    I can't think of anyone that was banned by mistake, prominent or not. Also, if a member's warned a gajillion times for something, and they don't listen, they deserve a banning.

    I can see the merits of temp-banning, and see how they could be put to good use in the case of certain situations. However, I can also see how it could cause more problems then it could solve. Staff hasn't yet had such a dilemna with a banning yet that would warrant such a change in policy, as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    I can't think of anyone that was banned by mistake, prominent or not. Also, if a member's warned a gajillion times for something, and they don't listen, they deserve a banning.
    If they've repeatedly done something not-so-serious, then a temp-ban could be a good kick in the pants. For example, someone who tries to bypass the swear filter often or who posts too much spam.
    A temporary ban was used earlier this year, when a member (who shall remain nameless) posted a hoax thread in EoEO, complete with pictures, pretending to be pregnant. Other members have been banned for limited periods, too.

    I'm not saying that serious offences should receive only temp-ban penalties; but allowances should be made in less-serious cases.

    Factors like a member's overall contribution to EoFF should be a factor, as well. Someone who registers and then starts spamming nonsense should be banned outright, but a respected and productive member who sometimes posts "quality spam" (Del Murder, for instance) obviously doesn't warrant permanent banning.

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    You never know, cloudxsquall89643 that got permabanned for spamming the FF forums could one day be a pillar of this community, if only he was temp-banned. It's possible.

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    A perfect case where a temp-ban would fit the bill.

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    No, Proto. It wouldn't help that case at all unfortunately.
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    How would you know? You've warned her countless times, yet she still continues to break the rules. A one week temp-ban will be able to set it straight that what she's doing is not right.

    But that's just my opinion, you may continue with what you're doing, giving her countless more warnings, until she on her "last straw" whenever that may be.

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    Cram it, Proto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Proto
    But that's just my opinion, you may continue with what you're doing, giving her countless more warnings, until she on her "last straw" whenever that may be.
    Yesterday.

    The system works!

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    I have this much to say.

    EoFF is a bunch of cops writing tickets. Get to many tickets and you get the death penalty. Where does jail time come in? The system is smurfing retarded.

    Although I would like to say that I am one of the few members that has been has had 2 things happen to them that may never happen to anyone else ever again. Being banned and suspended. I would also like to say I didn't learn my lesson

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