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    It's not hard to figure out if someone incharge pms you and tells you to stop doing something, that what you're doing is wrong and you should probably stop.

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    Am I saying that everyone is going to post porn and will get a temp ban for it? No, I am not. I am only using this in the case of it being truly accidental, like it was in Peter's case.
    I'd like to know how you verified that it was definitely accidental.

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    Most common regulars don't want to get banned. There are a few who do. It also by the content of the post. If it was in a photo thread, it's likely a mistake. If it's in its own thread, probably done on purpose.

    Come on, you should know that a thread titled "Omg, bye!" with a porn picture inside was done on purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by MecaKane
    It's not hard to figure out if someone incharge pms you and tells you to stop doing something, that what you're doing is wrong and you should probably stop.
    Not everyone reads their PM.
    Last edited by Agent Proto; 04-07-2005 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
    Even Sean has said it shouldn't be such a big deal, or something along those lines.
    Looking forward to Aaron Freed quoting this in four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    I don't agree with the "first offence, second offence" crap. Things should be handled on a case-by-case basis as much as possible.

    However, I do agree with the temp-ban usage idea. That way someone who's been warned 50 times for double-posting doesn't get banned for double-posting, but just gets a "wake-up call," for lack of a better term.

    EDIT: Also, Proto, it doesn't help your cause any by, in your suggestions, calling the staff lazy and telling them what their decision will be.
    I agree with all of this. Sometimes, a permanent ban just isn't warranted. Temporary bans have been used before, and have been effective. Case-by-case is the best approach; over time, good precedents and procedures will emerge by themselves, prettymuch.

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    Most common regulars don't want to get banned. There are a few who do, like Baloki. If you read his LJ prior to his banning, he's been complaining about wanting to get banned. Or something. It also by the content of the post. If it was in a photo thread, it's likely a mistake. If it's in its own thread, probably done on purpose.
    Just because they don't want to get banned doesn't mean Peter didn't intentionally post that image. I would say the more likely event was he thought the image was appropriate, posted it, then said it was accidental when he got in trouble for it.

    Not everyone reads their PM.
    Not the Staff's fault. And for every banning I've heard of, they'd been warned in threads, too.

    Looking forward to Aaron Freed quoting this in four years.
    x-freakin'-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    Just because they don't want to get banned doesn't mean Peter didn't intentionally post that image. I would say the more likely event was he thought the image was appropriate, posted it, then said it was accidental when he got in trouble for it.
    Sometimes they do think it's appropriate, like Bert's case. Though, not deliberately wanting to get banned, that case should at least warrant a couple month temp ban, as with Peter.

    So, maybe if the porn was in its own thread, that could mean permanent ban.

    Edit: In any case, I will accept this thread getting closed, but I won't accept the decision made by most of the staff. I will only accept Cid's words regarding temp-bans as final.

    BTW: I'm not endorsing staff to unban Peter. As much as I would like to see him unbanned, it's best that he stay banned.

    Apparently, I have been declared banished.

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    If one more person says Peter posted that picture by accident I am going to scream.

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    Sometimes they do think it's appropriate, like Bert's case. Though, not deliberately wanting to get banned, that case should at least warrant a couple month temp ban, as with Peter.
    Bert, as Staff admitted, was a mistake and should have been banned.

    So, maybe if the porn was in its own thread, that could mean permanent ban.
    I don't see how that effects anything. What's next? Porn in GC being worse than porn in FF7?

    I agree with all of this. Sometimes, a permanent ban just isn't warranted. Temporary bans have been used before, and have been effective.
    I think the "drink tank" is effective. Other forms of temp-banning haven't been used in a while, but the "drink-tank" is definitely an effective form of temp-ban, and I think it should be used more. Maybe something similar?

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    Raist, could you explain the "drink tank"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
    If one more person says Peter posted that picture by accident I am going to scream.
    Yeah, everyone knows Peter did it to deliberately spite the other members and hopefully to cause irrepairable emotional damage. :rolleyes2

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    *drunk tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Proto
    Raist, could you explain the "drink tank"?
    It's the user-group they put HOOTERS in when he made 3489057438957943 drunk posts/threads. xD

    Raf was put in it yesterday when he got so pissed at the Staff.

    From what I've heard, it's like a banned group, but not really. It just disables posting and thread-making.

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    It only disables thread-making.

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    I thought you can't post at all, but you can still view everything.

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