It's so freakin' simple!

[rubah]

You shouldn't've said all that;P

Now I've got to post something.

(I'm not particularly perturbed by double conjunctions or doubling the have/got XD)

however when intelligent people use netspeak it annoys me. LEAVE THAT FOR THE PROLES, geeze!

and overly long paragraphs make it so I can't read them. I like having several hard line breaks^_^ It make skimming easier, at least.

but "data" is its own plural

I thought data was the plural of datum.

and people using he/she annoys me. Even if 'they' isn't terribly correct, it still flows better^_^
Maybe that's why I didn't like ff9 so much.

[StarlightAngel]

Are our schools really so horrible that they can't teach children such basic things?

Yes.

I've gotten used to it on the Internet, but I try to keep my grammar up to par. I still make plenty of mistakes though

[Rye]

I have the habit of forgetting to add periods after my sentences, but my puncuation is pretty good besides that.

[withered]

I guess it is annoying sometimes (when it is 14 year old AOLer standard) but what are more annoying are people who instantly link improper grammar to being stupid. Please explain the logic in that? Have these people never heard of a thing called dyslexia? If someone has it sometimes that means they cannot write/spell properly but that doesn't make them stupid. And if someone from a non-English speaking country doesn't employ the English language and all it's grammatical rules to some peoples high standards does that make them stupid? I think not.
So really bad grammar is annoying but mistakes here and there aren’t so bad. Americanisms exasperate me more.
Oh there are two things. When people write alot, that drives me crazy (a bit like everytime) and stadiums, it is stadia (though that is one of the things that has changed with time).

[Denmark]

i want 2 go 2 that place n those 2 others 2

I figure that sometime around the age of 40, if I'm not a celebrity or anything like that, I will go on a rampage of vandalism to correct everything that's wrong.

actually, probably after retirement.

Caspian: I was going to say something along those lines. :D Like "The Mavericks sucks"

[Ouch!]

I guess it is annoying sometimes (when it is 14 year old AOLer standard) but what are more annoying are people who instantly link improper grammar to being stupid. Please explain the logic in that? Have these people never heard of a thing called dyslexia?

I have a friend who is dyslexic, I don't hold it against them, but dylexia isn't that common and people with horrible grammar can't just hide behind something like that. They have a legitimate excuse, and I don't feel badly towards them.

People with bad grammar aren't inherently stupid, but they sure aren't showing very much intelligence. It's not as though basic principles of grammar are too terribly hard to understand, and you're certainly not representing yourself as an intelligent person if you're typing like a 10-year-old AOLer.

And if someone from a non-English speaking country doesn't employ the English language and all it's grammatical rules to some peoples high standards does that make them stupid? I think not.

If English isn't their first language, that too is a legitimate excuse. I'm happy enough that they're trying, because they are trying. Good for them. Now if the people whose first language is English, all I ask is that they try.

[withered]

I have a friend who is dyslexic, I don't hold it against them, but dylexia isn't that common and people with horrible grammar can't just hide behind something like that. They have a legitimate excuse, and I don't feel badly towards them.

People with bad grammar aren't inherently stupid, but they sure aren't showing very much intelligence. It's not as though basic principles of grammar are too terribly hard to understand, and you're certainly not representing yourself as an intelligent person if you're typing like a 10-year-old AOLer.


If English isn't their first language, that too is a legitimate excuse. I'm happy enough that they're trying, because they are trying. Good for them. Now if the people whose first language is English, all I ask is that they try.

It is true that they do portray themselves as unintelligent because-just like if you cannot understand mathematics- if you cannot comprehend English people just think you are automatically stupid. And hey they could be, but some are not.
I do hate it when people use poor grammar or typing on purpose, especially missing out capital letters because that is just lazy.
And yeah, dyslexia isn't that common I was just trying to think of an example of someone who can be clever but not have a good grasp of the English language. Some people have no excuse for their atrocities to the English language.

[rubah]

I have a friend who is dyslexic, I don't hold it against them, but dylexia isn't that common and people with horrible grammar can't just hide behind something like that.

Shouldn't there be a comma before that last "And"? Well, unless you're one of those people that like to leave out commas after the second to last item in a series.

</pretentious nitpick>
<preparations for flaming>
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[Sephex]

It doesn't bother me as long as it isn't frequent. I am more annoyed by stuff like...

"OMG R U SEXAY!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!J!O!!KJSAKLJ"

[withered]

Shouldn't there be a comma before that last "And"? Well, unless you're one of those people that like to leave out commas after the second to last item in a series.

</pretentious nitpick>
<preparations for flaming>
;;

Ah! Americanisms! No commas anywhere near 'and(s)'. You would get completely owned for that in the UK.

[Raistlin]

Shouldn't there be a comma before that last "And"? Well, unless you're one of those people that like to leave out commas after the second to last item in a series.

Nope. Let's take a look:

"<i>I have a friend who is dyslexic, I don't hold it against them, but dylexia isn't that common and people with horrible grammar can't just hide behind something like that.</i>"

Now, there should be some sort of full-stop after "dyslexic." A semi-colon would do - but that's the only error. "I have a friend who is dyslexic," "I don't hold it against them," "dyslexia isn't that common and people with...like that" are three indepedent thoughts. The comma is, and belonds before the "but dyslexia..." but is superfluous and wrong before the "and," as it's only a series of two. Unnecessary commas are just as bad as ones not used in the first place.

Ah! Americanisms! No commas anywhere near 'and(s)'. You would get completely owned for that in the UK.

Commas are often absolutely necessary before "and," such as when used to combine two independent clauses. However, when used in a series "I like this, this, and this" apparently now it's proper grammar whether you include the last comma or not. This is just another example of how English has been perverted to comform to lazy people. As if this wasn't bad enough, now it's acceptable to use split infinitives! The grammar world is truly going to quickly go hell in a handbasket. *rolls eyes*

[Leeza]

It bothers me when people us a comma before <i>and</i> in a series. It's just not right in my book.

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

Team names. Are singular. One team. Not two. Not 50. One. Chelsea <b>is</b> good. Not are. IS.

It can go either way when you're referring to a collective. Square makes crap games. Square make crap games.

One thing that bugs me about this is when people just add an apostrophe after someone's name that ends with an "s"(i.e., Bleys' Crotch), which is not correct(it's "Bleys's Crotch). You only add the apostrophe after a plural noun.

Again, either way is correct. I always add the S, though.

This bugs me, because it sounds wrong, but "data" is its own plural.

I thought data was the plural of datum.

It's both the plural form of datum and a mass noun like "information." Also, for the record, I hate every single one of you bastards who say "forums" instead of fora.

and people using he/she annoys me. Even if 'they' isn't terribly correct, it still flows better^_^

"They" is incorrect, and "he/she" is unnecessary. When speaking in general terms, masculine pronouns cover both genders.

[Kirkpatrick]

Affect and effect.

They're different words, with different uses, but a lot* of the time I see them incorrectly used, and it irritates me.

Affect:
"To have an influence on or effect a change in: Inflation affects the buying power of the dollar."

Effect:
"Something brought about by a cause or agent; a result."

Oh, and let's not forget Mr. Apostrophe, which does not pluralize (pluralise, if you will ). "The cat's" does not mean several cats, it refers to something that belongs to the cat.

*Also, it is "a lot", if you are referring to a large number of things, "allot" if you are portioning something out, and "alot" never.

Yeah, I dislike bad grammar.

[Sasquatch]

I write like I talk, but I try to use correct grammar, syntax, spelling, etc. I'll type things like "ain't", "y'all", "prettymuch", "gonna", and stuff like that, and I'll combine words like I would in casual speech ("d'you" for "did you", etc.), but I'll usually put in the correct punctuation where it's needed.

As for collective names (Square, Texas (team), etc.), they should not be pluralized. It would be "Texas Rangers are bad", "Rangers are bad", and "Texas is a bad team." "Texas" is not plural, however, the word "Rangers" is plural. It would depend on the context, I believe, but I'm not sure.

And when I was young, I was taught to put a comma after everything in a list of more than two ("this, that, and the other"), but later in life I was taught different. I've always used the comma, though.

Y'all Brits need to stop putting "ou" where "o" should be--color, armor, and the like.