this is for the topic that appeared out of the "wrongly accused?" thread.

the statement made that the ends of torture justifies the means is absurd. what end? a confession? we practiced that for hundreds off years. made finding heretics and witches a whole lot easier. stretch them a little, use anal pears. and they would confess. none of this funny trial thing. things were much simpler back then, put them on the rack and out comes a confession. it was amazing how many heretics there were back in those days. thank god we found so many eh? or would it be that torture is absolutely useless. give me a vice and a mans testicles and in a few minutes i could have him claiming he was planning to build a huge magnet to cause the moon to be pulled into the earth. same thing if i depreived man of sleep for a week, put him in stress positions, played white noise through his cell constantly, insulted him day and night, had him urinate himself, hogtied him and use short stick tying. all methods authorized by the american government at the highest level.

islam is not an evil religion if it was so is catholicism for the ira. because terrorist choose to hide behind a certain religion, happen to be off that religion or fighting for that religion does not mean they represent that religion in anyway.